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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

XJTordecai Watch the seventh wave Since: Jun, 2013
Watch the seventh wave
#88926: Sep 5th 2018 at 4:19:04 PM

Glanced at the Captain Marvel stuff. Very cool. And yeah @Alley Oop, here's hoping Ronan fares better here.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#88927: Sep 5th 2018 at 4:51:35 PM

Here's a thing.

Despite being vastly outmatched, Thor was able to fight Hela on even keel for a little while. He was not able to do the same to Thanos.

Thanos is so tough that all of Tony and Strange's best efforts - and they were good best efforts - they manage to draw only the tiniest bit of blood.

Hela would have done better than Thor but not better enough, I don't think. And she wouldn't have been able to play nice with allies.

This. Additionally, if you recall, Thanos retrieved the Power Gem first. Which has the power to destroy a planet.

Hela might put up a fight against base Thanos. She wouldn't stand a chance against Thanos + Power.

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#88929: Sep 5th 2018 at 5:02:11 PM

[up][up]Agreed. One stone should have been enough to roll right over Hela, and Thanos could probably take her one-on-one with his bare hands in Asgard.

Unrelated-what happened to your Rebels reviews? D:

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Sep 5th 2018 at 8:01:44 AM

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#88930: Sep 5th 2018 at 5:37:16 PM

We need more Base Thanks stats.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#88931: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:08:37 PM

I will say that a fight between the two would be, if nothing else, spectacular to watch

Preferably from a large distance

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#88932: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:12:18 PM

[up][up][up][up]There's always Saitama. tongue

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#88933: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:35:53 PM

I'd put Thor holding his own against Hela briefly and then being stomped by Thanos as nerfing for the sake of Plot Armor, TBH. Thor for some reason never uses his lightning against Thanos in the opening. And Hela if she really wanted pre-full-power Thor dead right away (she seemed to be fighting him for amusement) could've summoned one of those gigantic knives she used to attack Surtur and cleaved him immediately.

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#88934: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:45:23 PM

Unrelated-what happened to your Rebels reviews?

Life happened. I play the show in the background when I'm doing mindless tasks at work, but these past couple weeks have been pretty crazy.

Our team lead is moving to a new position elsewhere in the company and I've been picking up some of her load to try and replace her. We also underwent a remodel; since I'm gunning for that promotion, I helped try to manage our team's move during the relocation process. Plus we've got new processes we're implementing, which I had to help design and roll out.

All in all, my work hasn't exactly been mindless these past couple weeks, so there hasn't been time for it. I do expect things to calm down once some of these transitions are complete, though.

[up] It occurs to me that in the opening fight, they're in space. Where's he supposed to get lightning from?

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 5th 2018 at 7:45:35 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#88935: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:47:45 PM

Himself, out of his hands, like nearly all the other times in Ragnarok and Infinity War.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#88936: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:51:51 PM

Well I know the giant "Fuck you" bolt that he hit Hela with came from the sky.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#88937: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:54:01 PM

... have we ever seen Thor use lightning inside of a spaceship? He might need an atmosphere in order to use his lightning. To mention that using lightning might hurt the ship and further endanger his people.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#88938: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:55:25 PM

Maybe he already did try it, and Thanos just no-sold it?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#88939: Sep 5th 2018 at 7:03:23 PM

Thor used his lightning at Nidavellir, while exposed to open space.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#88940: Sep 5th 2018 at 7:10:35 PM

It's just electrical discharge, so as long as you have enough gravitational force for some semblance of an atmosphere to create ions from Thor can still generate lightning, even without visible clouds in the air.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#88941: Sep 5th 2018 at 8:24:04 PM

I have usually assumed Thor never casts his gigantic bolts of lightning inside ships (like the Helicarrier in avengers 1 and the ship in IW) because he's (quite rightfully so) afraid that if he does so he'll annihilate the place and kill everyone inside it.

It's noteworthy that Thor's two greatest attacks took place in specific situations. His giant thunderwave in the first Thor movie took place in Jotunheilm before Thor gave a shit about anybody's lives, and the unholy lightning bolt of Ragnarok took place in a (entirely empty) Asgard.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#88942: Sep 5th 2018 at 8:26:16 PM

He was already in the half of the ship where all but three of his companions were dead.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#88943: Sep 5th 2018 at 8:30:53 PM

By that point I think he was just too exhausted and beaten to conjure up that kind of attack, but to avoid loss of life was presumably why he didn't chuck a godforsaken lightning bolt from the word go.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#88945: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:27:39 AM

I kinda wish we'd gotten to see the failed fight against Thanos. I know why they didn't film it but him pulling a big, badass performance like the end of Ragnarok, only for Thanos to completely no-sell it would've been awesome.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88946: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:34:25 AM

Thanos really is the strongest there is. tongue

Also ya know I had an amusing thought but I'd really want someone to tell Hank "Yo Tony Stark just saved your ass" just to see his reaction.

Hell it be funny if Ghost were she anti-corporate for example to call out Hank as a corporate douche-bag like Stark & for him to go "What I'm against those corporate douche-bags like Stark."

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#88947: Sep 6th 2018 at 3:40:56 AM

Only the squirrel girl can defeat Thanos,it is prophesied

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#88948: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:52:39 AM

Also ya know I had an amusing thought but I'd really want someone to tell Hank "Yo Tony Stark just saved your ass" just to see his reaction.

When has Tony ever saved Hank? Or are you talking in general?

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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#88949: Sep 6th 2018 at 8:18:41 AM

Good look at Captain Marvel, though I hope the shots of the Kree makeup are low quality because they look rough...I think even Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. did a better job with it in terms of some characters being blue and having specific facial markings.

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#88950: Sep 6th 2018 at 8:40:34 PM

Y'know, it's interesting. Pym built his company on nanotech and molecular engineering, always hating the Starks and considering them war profiteers. Which was fair. Howard Stark built his company on weapons and Tony kept right on trucking.

Pym was the victim of a coup from an associate who wanted to use the company for arms development. Stark tried to move the company away from arms development and was the victim of a coup from an associate who wanted to keep it going right on track. Both coups were performed in the name of selling weapons to terrorists.

Stark reported his usurper to federal authorities. The usurper was killed while resisting arrest.

Pym hired a criminal to break into his company and destroy it in its entirety. The usurper was killed during the ensuing violence.

Stark Industries is now working on developing renewable energy to build a brighter future. Pym Industries is not working on anything because it was completely obliterated.

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