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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
- Pym: Never trust a Stark!
- Stark: I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the nuclear warhead I'm flying into a wormhole. YOU'RE WELCOOOOOOOOOME.
Having seen Ant-Man and the Wasp, I'm surprised that Hank wasn't mad at Scott about his shrinking suit being taken into Stark's custody for a time. Don't get me wrong, he was mad at Scott about revealing his tech to the world and shit, but Stark doesn't come up in that conversation, IIRC.
Decades trying to keep people from getting a chance to study his tech and a deeply-held resentment against the Starks specifically, and he just flat-out never mentions the fact that Tony Stark probably now has all kinds of analytics and data files on the tech Pym never wanted him to have. Lang didn't just reveal the tech to the world; he lost it to the guy around whom Pym drew a hard line in the sand and said, "These people NEVER touch my tech."
That's like stealing an Iron Man suit and then being like, "Oh, sorry, the Mark 35 spent two weeks in Justin Hammer's custody. But it's cool, I got it back. I'm sure they don't have comprehensive blueprints now or anything." ...which I suppose Rhodey did, but he's Tony's BFF so nepotism.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 1st 2018 at 8:47:59 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.That is kind of true in a weird roundabout way. In any case, I was really hoping for a conversation like
- Pym: Tony Stark. Tony Stark. Has my suit.
- Lang: Had. Tony Stark had your suit.
- Pym: Don't talk to me tense verbage! You lost my suit to Tony Stark?! How long did he have it for?
- Lang: Uh... how long was I in jail?
- Pym: Sweet Jesus.
Maybe with a follow-up.
- Lang: Wait, why does Hope's suit get wings and blasters?
- Pym: Because she's not going to give them to Tony Stark.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 1st 2018 at 8:49:47 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Hah
Although I'm unclear on the timescale. Scott mailed the suit at some point but when was that point? I don't think Stark or anyone had much time to study it
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI am wondering when and how he did it? The only logical explanation is that in the brief time before he was arrested (while all the stuff with Rhodey was going down, Scott recovered from the drain of going giant, took off the suit, shrunk it, found a mail box in that mess of an airport and put mailed it that way.
That's a lot to do and the entire place was shut down, so I can't say if he really could have pulled it off. He did originally claim he destroyed it though (to keep them from getting angrier at him than they already were), so it seems the assumption was that he prevented them from studying it all.
One Strip! One Strip!Yeah, Stark never had the suit. The mail system had the suit, but of course they had no idea what it was.
As Rob
said, it's hard to tell exactly when Scott would have had time to pull that off, but the point of that whole thing was to explain that the suit was in fact not confiscated when he got arrested. Presumably Scott just told them he destroyed it.
Most of their stuff was, but if it was, Tony would have studied it. Which is what Tobias was talking about. The mail thing was to explain that it was never on the Raft and never in Tony's custody.
Everyone else's equipment was stuff that Tony already knew about, mostly because it was designed by either him or the US government.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.So, remember those discussions about a disney/avengers mashup we had a long time ago? Well, someone went ahead and did it
, but with Disney animated series instead of movies.
Gotta say, Fillmore as Nick Fury is such a inspired (and obvious) choice I can't believe I didn't saw it before.
Edited by eligram on Sep 1st 2018 at 3:46:43 PM
The time frame of the ending of Civil War is kind of nebulous. But prior in the film when Sam and Steve get arrested and have their wings and shield respectively confiscated, Sharon Carter mentions that they'll be given receipts of some kind. So presumably there's some sort of evidence lockup.
It's entirely possible that when the guys got arrested and had their gear confiscated, it was locked up with the intention of studying it later. And by the time Tony and everyone else were in a position to actually examine the items, Cap had already broken his pals out of prison.
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Actually, that's what I was thinking of. But Tony already knows how Cap's shield works (he just doesn't have any more vibranium), and the falcon suit was made by the US government, so if Tony really cared he could easily get full access to the blueprints. That was all before Scott got involved.
Tony had more important things to worry about.
I assumed that the time-line went this way: They got arrested, their stuff got stored in the Raft with them because, well, their stuff already got stolen before, so where else should they store it than in the safest place they knew, and when Cap broke them out, they also took their stuff with them. But since Scott wanted back home, he made the deal to give himself up and then claimed that the suit got destroyed.
That's a very good question.
One Strip! One Strip!

The Quantum Realm is a location where everything is Hank Pym's fault.
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