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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#88776: Aug 30th 2018 at 9:34:14 PM

Yeah, that's the big issue. He may not know that T'Chaka killed his own brother, but if he starts telling people that said brother committed treason and was helping him in the first place and actually has reasonable evidence to back that up, it's gonna cause....a stir, to say the

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#88777: Aug 30th 2018 at 9:40:09 PM

Did he know?

I mean, he never uses this fact to rub it in to T'chala's face at any point (and we all saw how gleeful Klaue was about messing with them).

Is it possible that N'jobu never revealed his exact identity? In other words, Klaue knows he has an source very high in the government, but isn't aware it's the Crown Prince Wakanda himself.

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#88778: Aug 30th 2018 at 10:21:52 PM

I don't think the differences between AOU and BP are much of a problem. Klaue is hard for Wakandans to find.

Wakandans who have no diplomatic ties, no extradition treaties, and shun all other nations. Wakanda has spies in a bunch of different countries, but 100% of those spies are racially Wakandan and it's a pretty major plot point that the world outside Africa isn't very kind to black people so YMMV on just how much power and influence those spies possess.

They have invisible dropships, but they don't have Interpol and the U.N. circulating Klaue's picture and details or extradition treaties with countries that would be willing to surrender him if apprehended.

They have holographic technology, but they do not participate in the World Wide Web. They don't have f*cking Soundcloud.

Ultron, the Avengers, and Killmonger are all able to track down Klaue without issue because they participate in the world that he lives and operates in. But Wakanda's strategy for finding him begins and ends with, "If one of our spies SEES him with their PHYSICAL EYES, we will dropship some kung-fu soldiers with spears to take him in. They'll be there within the hour, I guess? How fast do our ships fly?"

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 30th 2018 at 11:21:57 AM

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#88779: Aug 30th 2018 at 10:31:50 PM

I don't know if that's true. I don't really get the impression that their special forces would have any problem making use of the technology or communication systems of the outside world (hacking into them if necessary), just because they don't contribute to them. I know Shuri's on a whole other level, but they still had technology leaps and bounds above the rest of the world before she was even born.

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#88780: Aug 30th 2018 at 10:40:39 PM

Shuri knows what memes are. That's got to mean some familiarity with the non-Wakandan Internet.

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#88781: Aug 30th 2018 at 10:47:50 PM

Clearly Shuri knows a lot about the outside world, as does Nakia, firsthand. N'Jobu seemed like he'd integrated into 1990s Oakland pretty convincingly. I don't think learning out to get around the internet is all that hard — and they've still had spies out in the world since then.

Edited by Unsung on Aug 30th 2018 at 12:04:09 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#88782: Aug 31st 2018 at 1:31:11 AM

This is really an excellent summary of Iron man as a character. I especially love how it matches up scenes from the early movies to the more recent ones.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#88783: Aug 31st 2018 at 1:54:39 AM

I almost thought they were going to use "I Am Moana" for the video.

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#88785: Aug 31st 2018 at 11:41:29 AM

I'm amazed that the film's less than a year away and we still don't have a title for it. I'm so going to laugh if they don't announce the title until the first trailer and then don't launch that trailer until, like, Captain Marvel's post-credits scene.

"Avengers: F*ck You, Give Us Your Money. Coming to theaters IN LESS THAN A MONTH HOLY SHIT."

I mean, it's not like the movie even needs a trailer to build hype at this point. Infinity War's ending will put all the asses in seats by itself. It's basically Emotional Blackmail: The Movie.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 31st 2018 at 12:42:02 PM

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#88786: Aug 31st 2018 at 11:47:56 AM

Your favorite characters will be dead forever unless you watch!

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#88787: Aug 31st 2018 at 11:51:30 AM

I’ll confess that I’m not sure what the reason for the secrecy is. Pretty much everyone knows how Infinity War ends at this point.

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#88788: Aug 31st 2018 at 11:56:20 AM

The spoiler in the title probably isn't about Infinity War. My guess is that it actually gives away something in Captain Marvel.

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#88789: Aug 31st 2018 at 11:57:58 AM

Avengers: Captain Marvel’s Cat Is Really A Flerken

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#88790: Aug 31st 2018 at 11:58:19 AM

I mean, they said that “Avengers Forever” was the closest guess made so far, so I don’t know what from Captain Marvel would spoil something along those lines.

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#88794: Aug 31st 2018 at 12:22:24 PM

Avengers: A New Hope.

The title is literal. The plot of the movie is about Scott Lang escaping the Quantum Realm and making a Replacement Goldfish for Hope out of some of her clothes and a mannequin. The survivors of his family are very concerned for him.

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#88795: Aug 31st 2018 at 12:26:57 PM

Avengers: Steve Rogers Will Be Single Forever

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#88796: Aug 31st 2018 at 12:29:41 PM

Random silly theory: temporal shenanigans are happening, we’re pretty sure. So at one point they screw up and make a Time Crash, resulting in a young Hank and Jan showing up and fighting alongside the original movie Avengers.

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#88797: Aug 31st 2018 at 12:41:56 PM

Avengers: Seriously Marvel, Pick A Title Already!

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#88798: Aug 31st 2018 at 12:46:23 PM

[up][up]Janet: “You should call yourselves The Avengers.”

Hank: “I’ve got a great idea for a robot.”

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#88799: Aug 31st 2018 at 12:46:54 PM

[up][up][up] This, except Natasha and Clint (and maybe Steve) aren’t there when it happens.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Aug 31st 2018 at 3:46:37 PM

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#88800: Aug 31st 2018 at 12:56:10 PM

History will never truly be righted until everything is Hank Pym's fault again.


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