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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
That particular dynamic also shows up in "The Cabin in the Woods". It's named the Angry Molesting Tree.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 26th 2018 at 10:05:23 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Concept art shows Balder almost made it into the MCU
https://io9.gizmodo.com/dynamic-concept-art-reveals-that-balder-was-once-a-part-1828599652
One of the poster referred to Sif as a goddess of war (which she wasn't in the myths). So Thor, Loki, Odin, Heimdall and Sif makes it five gods.
It might be that there are other gods but they weren't doing anything during the films and then they killed in Ragnarok.
Edit: Can't believe I forgot Hela.
Edited by windleopard on Aug 27th 2018 at 1:21:07 AM
Finally started watching Punisher at my brother's recommendation. Four episodes in and it's pretty damn good. Not much else I can think of to say. Regretfully I've been slacking like mad when it comes to the TV/Netflix side of the MCU, though I promise you I'm gonna avoid Inhumans like the plague.
On my wave, passing oooooooonI know which episode you're talking about, and I don't think it was that bad. The show itself was clearly taking a side in the gun control debate, but the guy they positioned to be the strawman was too reasonable and sympathetic to really have the intended effect. He came off as naive and cowardly, sure, but it was a scary situation and he also made plenty of legitimate points, some that weren't really argued.
Also, the non-standard narrative structure of that episode is so freakin' good that I easily looked past the gun rights issues.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 27th 2018 at 3:42:16 AM
What the hell are you talking about? First they misrepresent the gun debate as being about "allowing guns vs forbidding guns", which is NOT what it is about at all, it is about allowing guns without any checks on them vs having reasonable gun control which, contrary to what the show claims, would allow Karen to carry a gun with a proper permit.
Then they go and portray the gun control advocate as a hypocrite for wanting armed guards on him, except, that is EXACTLY what gun control is about, leaving the shooting to people who are actually trained to do so, instead of doing it yourself without any proper training.
And just in case the audience hasn't gotten the message yet that the position of the character we know and like (Karen) is right and the position of the whiny, cowardly gun advocate who only cares about what is popular with the voters is wrong, they put Karen into a situation in which she has to surrender her gun only to get attacked by a crazy gunman.
It is basically a high budget version of a typical NRA propaganda video, and considering the connection between Perlmutter and the NRA and don't believe for a second that it happened in any way by accident.
We got an unofficial first look at Captain Marvel merchandise!
"Protector of the Skies"
Pretty fitting for someone on the Air Force, no?
Actor Clive Russell (Blackfish Tully from Game of Thrones) was supposed to play Tyr in Thor: The Dark World, but as part of the notorious heavy cuts to add more Loki he was reduced to a non-speaking extra. He's technically still in the film as a background figure leading Asgardians out and about but that's it.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I hate to get into political discussion, but calling it an NRA-shill episode is really off-base. Within the context of America's gun politics, it takes a decidedly left-of-center stance on the subject.
If Senator Ori is the anti-gun strawman (who is really more a strawman of the hypocritical politicians who use the argument as a platform for self-aggrandising, than of the position itself), Lewis and O'Connor are the pro-gun strawmen and they are rightfully presented as way more wrong and dangerous; the former is explicitly called a terrorist and the latter is every negative trait of the stereotypical conservative shotgun hick rolled into one unlikeable lump of a person and the world is a better place with both of them dead.
The writing in Ori and Karen's debate is a little awkward and feels like they had to shoehorn negative traits onto Ori to avoid seeming too biased, I'll grant that, but it's not pro-NRA at all.
Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Aug 27th 2018 at 2:29:34 PM
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Uhh, what are you talking about? Clearly you misread "Curtis" where I typed out "O'Connor", and that's clearly what my original post was, it's not like I mixed their names up and hastily edited it just now or anything.
The edit timestamp is a lying liar, don't believe its lies.
Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Aug 27th 2018 at 2:31:12 PM
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Lewis is playing into the NRA narrative that gun violence is above all a "health problem" and the show goes out of its way to portray him as a poor victim of an unfair society. And the whole point is that everyone needs a gun to protect himself or herself from the bad/crazy people with guns.
Just watch a few NRA propaganda videos and you'll see what I mean. And, for the record, I was ready to give Marvel the benefit of the doubt, not because there is any doubt that the episode is like NRA propaganda, but because I really, really wanted to think that it was an accident. And then it turned out that Marvel was forced by public pressure to cancel a comic book which was exactly that.
Edited by Swanpride on Aug 28th 2018 at 12:31:32 PM
I'm really not sure where you're getting that from. Lewis's declining mental health is a consequence of America's terrible veteran support, yes, but his turn to gun violence is a consequence of O'Connor exploiting his mental state to poison him with dangerous rhetoric. In fact, I feel like you're ignoring O'Connor here; he doesn't have Lewis's excuses especially considering he isn't even a veteran and pretty much negatively embodies the exact thing you're accusing the show of promoting.
Marvel trying to publish that comic is irrelevant to the Punisher Netflix series; the latter's showrunners even condemned it when it was happening.
Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Aug 28th 2018 at 3:48:02 PM
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!![]()
I am ignoring Connor because he doesn't even feature in this episode. Nor do I think that his presence lessons the message, because the show saying that right-wingers are bad doesn't change anything about the way it mishandles the gun-control debate. Again: They act as if the gun control debate is about banning guns altogether, even though it isn't. A lot of people who are pro gun-control are gun owners themselves.
It doesn't misrepresent the tenor of the debate — that really is what it sounds like in certain political corners. The point of Senator Ori isn't to strawman pro-gun control and tear it down, it's to show that he's using an issue he doesn't actually care about personally to score cheap points, deliberately painting it as simpler than it is specifically to drum up support for a fallacious platform. A more reasonable view of gun control is touched upon by Karen, who certainly can't claim to be anti-gun but isn't anti-gun control, either. But there's only so much you can say on a this, of all shows. You might well be pro-gun control but it's going to ring a little hollow to do a Very Special Episode about it on *The Punisher*.
Edited by Unsung on Aug 28th 2018 at 3:59:03 AM
Whut? Karen doesn't represent the middle ground, she is clearly representing the pro-gun fraction. At no point is she saying anything which advocated gun control on the episode, she just keeps pointing out why guns are needed for self-defence which is the same BS the NRA does, shifting the debate to something else they can easier argue, instead of discussing what kind of gun control makes sense. And again, the episode makes a point about the politician being a hypocrite for being a gun control advocate while also wanting protection when this is NOT against the idea of gun control AT ALL. The idea of gun control is that only people who know what they are doing and are unlikely to commit crimes with them are owning guns.

I honest to God thought the movie in question was The Happening.