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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Besides, if GOTG 3 ended up doing badly, then it's not completely bad for Marvel since they still can make money off of Avengers 4 or any other movie that is coming out in the near future. Also, it's not really the end of the world if they changed the script to the movie to fit another director's vision. I would rather have the script be rewritten in a way that would satisfy the current director than to have the new director try to follow a script that wasn't written for them. Just look at Justice League (2017) as a bad example of a new director taking the script from a previous director.
I love animation, TV, movies, YOU NAME IT!You can't really compare this because when Whedon took over the movie was already well into production and to a large part shot. You can't even compare this with the Ant-man situation, because there Reed took over the last minute and had to meet a very specific release date.
A change of directors early on in the game is not that unusual and is in itself a neutral feature.
That, and Justice League was a big money loser for WB once the reviews and box office gross came out.
"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam GallagherWell I just got back from Ant-Man and the Wasp. Great stuff. Scott Lang is a really damn good dad, which is refreshing after...y'know. Hope was great, Luis was a joy, and Ghost was a very, VERY pleasant surprise of an antagonist. She's pretty high on my MCU villain rankings, let's just say. I don't have that much to say, it was a fun ride that I think improves on what the first movie brought to the table and lands probably in the upper half of the franchise. Damn I still need to see more of these.
On my wave, passing oooooooonI recently started doing a rewatch of the MCU (one film a week for 20 weeks) and I watched The Incredible Hulk for the first time...
And geez, that was very much a Just Here for Godzilla sort of a thing. The first half of the film was very dour and boring, but at least the Hulk fights were cool?
Banner/Hulk is my favorite character in the MCU, but a lot of that is because I very much like what Mark Ruffalo brings to the character, and if he hadn't been recast I'm not sure I'd have the same opinion of him.
I enjoyed Ant-Man and the Wasp a lot - and more than I expected to. It's a good example of how a movie can be compelling without especially high stakes. There's no cosmic, global, national, or even citywide thread - really, not much danger to anyone but the main characters. And even with Scott, Hope and Hank, the villain's main goal is to steal their stuff in order to survive - not to kill them.
I found it far more engaging than Ant-Man, and in some ways more than Thor: Ragnarok, because the movie and the characters committed to those stakes despite them being fairly low. When a movie's constantly undercutting its tension and emotive moments and saying "Hey, don't take this seriously", it's hard to feel much interest even in large-scale threats. Comparatively lower stakes can get the audience more invested so long as the movie genuinely gives us a reason to care about them, while still allowing the film to be lighthearted and fun.
Regarding the villain: I liked Ghost, and honestly she's very much an Anti-Villain. Her goal is to survive and be relieved of her continual horrible pain. She doesn't do anything especially terrible, and the one time she is desperate enough to cross a line, she lets an ally talk her out of it. And in the end, the heroes give her the help she needs and she stops being a villain. I wish we had more comic book plots like that, where the hero can stop the villain by way of actually addressing the thing that's driving them to villainy.
Still, I do have to say: this is not the MCU's first female-led (or co-led) movie. That's still to come in Captain Marvel. The film is still very much told through Scott's eyes; it's his acquaintances (Luis et al) and Hank's (the university professor) who are pulled into the plot, not Hope's; it's his emotional growth that we see, far more than hers. It may be her and Hank's goal that drives the plot, but the story is still more Scott's (and Hank's) than hers. And of course she gets dusted at the end, while Scott survives to get the big role in Avengers 4, though Marvel could just as easily have done it the other way around if they'd wanted to.
Edited by Galadriel on Aug 8th 2018 at 11:48:50 AM
I have to say though I found the solution to Ghosts issues kinda a cop-out.
Janet comes in & she “miraculously” has the solution to all her worries that instantly calmed her down from her very homicidal behavior.
I didn’t like that.
Edited by slimcoder on Aug 8th 2018 at 9:06:24 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."![]()
It was hard to me to see, but it looked to me like she reached into his chest and attacked his heart, though it looks like the trope page says she snapped his neck. She does say at the end "I've killed people."
Kinda the same. I expected there'd be a slower solution for Ghost that Janet would help on over the following weeks, though I guess the credits does imply she's not fully 100% cured yet.
Its not so much a copout considering the cure that she and Foster were working on involved the quantum energy that Jan had absorbed. It just turns out that if they had cooled their heels, Jan could have willingly shared it instead of it having to be ripped out.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI think James Gunn may still have a future with Marvel and even Disney in spite of his firing.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/08/08/james-gunn-might-still-have-a-future-with-disney-and-marvel
"When a movie's constantly undercutting its tension and emotive moments and saying "Hey, don't take this seriously", it's hard to feel much interest even in large-scale threats."
I feel Marvel is trying to abandon this aproach of comedy the more it move out, some have it like Doctor Strange or Ragnarok but in general they are taking themselves a little bit more seriously.
A little bit.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Infinity war dosent really count since a) it have Thannos(one of marvel biggest villian) and b) it is one of the most hyped movie ever, so they have to be serious about it.
Black panther on the other hand is a origin movie and this one tend to be waaaaaay less serious and more goofy, often playing the whole "no serious, lol" but instead it have very little comedy in it(what, three, four moments?), which is very refreshing for marvel to do.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"And now Marvel Comics is reportedly trying to bring James Gunn back now...
WHERE'S THE TRUTH?!
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/08/09/marvel-disney-james-gunn-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-rehired/
I tell you want I can't handle:
All these different damn rumours.
...you know, while I said re-hiring him would be a mistake since he did write that stuff, the massive outpouring of support despite what he wrote from people who've worked with him (like the actual cast, and people who are friends with him) as opposed to the ostracization that most would get when they made a mistake like that makes me think Disney is willing to take him back because he's got a lot of good word backing him.
The fact that, while he hasn't out right apologized, he's made it clear he does regret what he said, and also that it was years ago and he's clearly changed (and has multiple people willing to vouch for that change) does seem to be playing a role in it as well.
Gunn is a lucky man... if this is true that is.
And even if not, he's still lucky to have so many good friends supporting him despite his mistake.
Not many get that.
One Strip! One Strip!
These people know that Humanity is just that. Human. Neither they're ones defined by good or bad, it all depends on what we do after all.
I read that article and it seems that there's a nasty battle going on between Marvel Studios and Disney Studios management over Gunn, and it could have a significant effect not just on Marvel, but the entire Disney Studios going forward.
Marvel didn't sign off on Gunn's firing and wants him back, but Disney is holding firm because they want to protect their brand's "wholesome" image.
There's no scenario in which both Kevin Feige and Alan Horn will stay at Disney once this is settled. One of them will have to go.
BTW, a reporter at THR believes that someone at Deadline just took his story yesterday and re-arranged it as a scoop
. If so, that reporter should be terminated for plagiarism.
Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 9th 2018 at 4:40:26 AM
"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher

Honestly, I wasn't especially impressed with either of the GOTG films, so I don't mind if they throw out Gunn's script. His style (and Quill's personality) was always rather too dudebro-ish for my tastes.
If the rumour about them throwing out the script is just a rumour, Marvel is fine; and if they are throwing out the script, they're still fine. It's not as if Marvel has a shortage of other movies they could move forward to take the place of GOTG 3.
Edited by Galadriel on Aug 8th 2018 at 6:22:33 AM