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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Well, I was answering Rob. But I do think saying that only people who have previously handled big-budget franchises need apply is narrowing the field in a way that doesn't really make sense— Lucas, Peter Jackson, Kevin Feige, they all had to get their start somewhere. And Rian Johnson didn't just appear out of nowhere, he'd made some great movies.
Edited by Unsung on Aug 6th 2018 at 9:24:17 AM
I also don't consider it especially important. What matters more is whether their sensibilities match the those of the movie they're selected to do.
Oh God! Natural light!MCU had a lot of directors who didn't direct big-budgeted films before the franchise and ended up doing great.
But if directors already directed big-budget films, when judging how fit they are directing another such film, the outcome from that one should be the main factor.
Of course, who knows. Maybe Rian Johnson might be the next James Mangold.
Edited by dRoy on Aug 7th 2018 at 12:18:13 AM
Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.Quality of The Last Jedi aside, I think it's silly to assume he'd tackle, say, Guardians in the same way that he did Star Wars.
Or do we seriously think that Johnson is a cackling madman who eagerly seeks to destroy all of our childhood dreams?
Oh God! Natural light!*shrugs* TLJ has a vocal hatedom, but its box office returns were excellent and many people and most critics liked it. I still think it was great, myself. I'd have no qualms about seeing what he could do with a Marvel movie — that's not the same as saying he'd take over the whole MCU outright anyway.
Edited by Unsung on Aug 6th 2018 at 9:24:57 AM
Or do we seriously think that Johnson is a cackling madman who eagerly seeks to destroy all of our childhood dreams?
No indication that he won't either.
Also, nobody accused him of that. Certainly not me.
If it was a stand-alone film, it would be considered really great. But compared to its predecessor, its box office return was almost halved. Also, although it's far from being the only reason, the Star Wars film that came right after that became the first ever entry to actually be a box office bomb.
Of course he's not going to take over the whole MCU, it's not like he's going to be the head of MCU or anything. But MCU is a franchise that heavily relies on cohesion among between all the entries. Extremely divisive reaction like one seen in The Last Jedi can really hurt a franchise like MCU.
Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.Odd, one of the more common complaints I'd heard was that TLJ didn't take itself seriously enough for some people's liking.
Looper is fairly grim. Brick is so over-the-top serious that it wraps around to being a parody, as a film noir set at a high school with dialogue out of a Raymond Chandler novel.
With Solo I think the issue has a lot to do with flooding the market. Going up against Infinity War was always going to be a bad, bad idea. I liked Rogue One, too, but I do think the predictability and nostalgia value can only take Star Wars so far, and that the event-based marketing of bringing Star Wars back after all this time had a lot to do with TFA's huge success. Scheduled too tightly, people take them for granted.
Edited by Unsung on Aug 6th 2018 at 9:43:59 AM
To sum my thoughts on Rian Johnson as a possible director for GOTG 3 or other MCU film:
I am not in favor of such prospect due to how he handled the direction of the Sequel Trilogy, and I believe that kind of approach will be harmful for any MCU sub-franchises.
However, we have cases like James Mangold who directed a polarizing entry of a big series, only to return with almost universally acclaimed entry of the same series.
Lastly, if Kevin Feige decides that Johnson would make a good MCU director, I'm not going to question that, although I'd still have some bit of doubt.
Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.Writing and related pacing issues aside, I thought TLJ was rather well directed for the most part. Gorgeous shots and set pieces, fantastic performances from the main cast, goddamn sexy action (the Throne room fight had me harder than a fucking diamond, so to speak).
So with Feige supervising and reigning in as needed, I would not be inherently unopposed to Johnson having his hand at an MCU film.
PSN ID: FateSeraph | Switch friendcode: SW-0145-8835-0610 Congratulations! She/TheyJohnson wouldn't be my first choice for Guardians and he's got a full plate anyway. But I don't think he'd a bad pick either.
I would like to see Taika Waititi do more, definitely. Ragnarok had fantastic visuals, and I liked the character beats we got for all the returning cast members (bar the Warriors Three), while still having room for Valkyrie to be more than a bit part.
When there's no alternative, there're always the Russo Brothers.
Let's not forget The Force Awakens's first scene also featured Poe openly riffing on the bad guys' ridiculous looks.
Though I liked TLJ and Looper, I wouldn't want Johnson for Guardians 3. Ragnarok is much closer to the overall off-kilter world and characters that the Guardians setting entails.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 6th 2018 at 9:28:53 AM
I don't want Waititi either, not for this project. The trilogy needs to get finished by someone ready to commit to James Gunn's vision. Perhaps even someone James Gunn himself suggests.
And, btw, I don't think that Disney had any intention to throw out his script in the first place...and shouldn't Nicole Perlman have time for it now? Captain Marvel is done, right?
Regarding the whole "weaponizing old Tweets" thing...there are some people now howling about "freedom of speech" but as James Gunn himself pointed out, freedom of speech doesn't mean that what you say doesn't have consequences, it just means that the state can't punish you for it. The internet shouldn't be a law free zone, nor should it be a place where your conduct doesn't matter. We have developed this mind-set that what happens on the internet is somehow different from what we do in real life. It is not. Firing off those tweets was basically like standing in the middle of a crowded room full of people of all ages joking about having sex with little boys.
As a thumb rule, you should never do anything on the internet you wouldn't feel comfortable to do in real life.

Seems D Roy's point was missed a bit.