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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#88051: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:21:31 AM

It would make seven people feel better deserved or not.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#88052: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:29:42 AM

But last time a bad guy who deserved it got punched he ended up breaking free and killing half of everybody.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#88053: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:31:48 AM

So clearly we should punch people who don't deserve it so that doesn't happen

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#88054: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:32:50 AM

If seven people punch Tony in the face, do ten thousand more get to kick Steve in the crotch to even things out?tongue

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#88055: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:33:16 AM

Sounds fair

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#88056: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:33:39 AM

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Logic.

But doesn't that mean some of us who're still angry wouldn't be able to punch Star Lord?

Can we afford to give that up?tongue

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HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#88057: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:33:44 AM

I dunno, life itself already punched Tony pretty hard in Infinity War.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#88058: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:34:11 AM

He deserves some punch but not a lot of punch so if we punch him a lot then he doesn't deserve it and its safe.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#88059: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:35:36 AM

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It's not about quality, but quantity.cool

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But that's less people punching Tony Stark isn't it?cool Besides, Steve would punch himself 10,000 times I think. Tony would want to, but would be too busy getting punched by everyone else.

Fairness.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 31st 2018 at 11:35:20 AM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#88060: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:41:48 AM

This is one of the most ridiculous cases of victim-blaming I've ever seen.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#88061: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:49:33 AM

Good. I'd hate for people to think I was 100% serious.

70% at most. I do still believe that Tony would be the greatest super villain the world has ever known if he actually wanted to be one.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#88062: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:52:40 AM

What about the guy who played Galaga?

He didn't make it.

This character wasn’t in the movie, but I’m wondering if the Galaga guy from the first Avengers survived Thanos’ snap or not?

Joe Russo: He got snapped in the middle of a Galaga game. He was seconds away from his all-time high score.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88063: Jul 31st 2018 at 10:55:10 AM

[up] Ah. sad

A moment of silence for the man playing video games on his job.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#88064: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:01:20 AM

Thanos knew he had to take him out or he'd be in danger.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#88065: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:06:45 AM

Damn.

He was our last hope. Now we gotta rely on those guys who barely do any avenging.

Curse you Thanos! Your villainy is endless!

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#88066: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:09:53 AM

Thanos’s greatest weakness is a lone starfighter strafing from side to side while his fleet of space bugs strafes in formation.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#88068: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:23:18 AM

Not sure how to feel about that.

I mean, yes it was years ago, but as we said, he did write those things.

I want Guardians as it is to be completed by the guy who started it, but I don't know if Disney should roll back on this.

I'm massively torn.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#88069: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:32:59 AM

I might be okay with it. I don't know.

If Disney wants to clamp down and say, "Pedophilic sentiment is a Zero-Tolerance thing at our company," I can get behind that.

If they want to say, "It was years ago and there's no evidence the guy still thinks those jokes are funny," I can get behind that too.

I, personally, am thoroughly disgusted by the things Gunn said and I'm not at all convinced that his employment by Disney is not the single and only reason he hasn't continued to say those things. Frankly, I also have my own beefs with his portrayal of Gamora and Mantis, which - as we've discussed in the past - I think has thoroughly vindicated the old concern that Most F*ckable Superheroes Guy might not be the best pick to depict Marvel's female characters.

There's a lot to like in the Guardians movies, but Gamora's reduction to Generic Love Interest and that weird thing where Mantis is 100% being enslaved and everyone's just fine with that is not great representation.

I think it's kind of a complicated situation because, like, it feels like the right thing to do would be for it to be 2012 and for Disney to not hire James Gunn to direct one of their franchises in the first place. But that ship sailed. So the question then becomes, do you try and correct the mistake or do you just declare that too much time has passed and let it play?

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 31st 2018 at 12:36:17 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#88070: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:34:33 AM

I'm all for him being reinstated,but the question is,will he accept his position back?

I have a feeling he'll return,just not as the director

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#88071: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:35:00 AM

This is one of those situations where the feces is gonna hit the rotational device no matter what choice is made isn't it?

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#88072: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:36:58 AM

Oh, yeah. Pretty much from the moment a Nazi discovered that one of Disney's prominent directors liked to joke about pedophilia, Disney was between a rock and a hard place. They could either be the people who betrayed James Gunn or they could be the people who shelter pedophiles. There was never going to be a PR win for them in all of this.

They cast their bid on what seemed like the least shitty of the two options and now they may be reconsidering whether they weighed them correctly.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 31st 2018 at 12:38:15 PM

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#88073: Jul 31st 2018 at 11:57:31 AM

[up]x4 Only Drax knows Mantis was kidnapped and enslaved. Everyone else just knows she works for Ego. Given that the Guardians immediately adopt her, claiming they’re fine with her enslavement is baseless. I agree there are gross orientalist undertones.

As for Gamora, I need to get around to writing an article defending MCU Gamora, because in my opinion she’s a rich character unfairly derided because she’s the least weird/edgy Guardian.

Edited by wisewillow on Jul 31st 2018 at 3:11:46 PM

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#88074: Jul 31st 2018 at 12:06:29 PM

Gamora is one of the best Guardians, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

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