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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#87501: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:05:50 PM

There's been a number of times Galactus's threat has been dealt with with more long-lasting methods, like teleporting him into a dimension of limitless energy or upgrading him into his Lifebringer form early. I figure they'll have to do so for the MCU since superhero movies tend to have more permanent continuity than the comics.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#87502: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:16:59 PM

[up][up]I dunno. Just because Galactus doesn't see it as wrong doesn't mean it isn't. The comparison usually used is that killing sapient beings to feed himself is no different from the way humans eat animals, but if animals were capable of communicating with us and pleading for their lives, I'm sure there'd be a much greater moral argument for veganism.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#87503: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:43:48 PM

The best comparison to Galactus is a natural disaster, because that’s more or less what he is: sentient, essential force of nature whose existence is part of the balance of the universe. He has to feed, and unlike a human being he can’t choose to be vegan - with the exception of Marvel Adventures, I think.

Jack Kirby liked gods, and he liked characters with deified point a of view that were alien to human perspective, and Galactus is a good example of that. He’s only hostile to humans incidentally, and while that incidental nature is very terrifying to said humans, being hostile is not actually what he’s about. He exists as he is.

Which in short means that one of the big problems with adapting Galactus as a Big Bad is that he isn’t one. Turning him into one makes him a lot less interesting a concept.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 7th 2018 at 1:47:48 AM

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#87504: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:53:11 PM

A hypothetical Galactus film wouldn't necessarily need to feature Galactus as a Big Bad. There are plenty of films where the villain is a force of nature. It'd basically be a superhero disaster film, in the vein of Armageddon or The Core.

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer tried to do something in this vein. It was terrible for a great number of reasons, but that doesn't mean the basic premise of treating Galactus like a meteor headed towards Earth that Bruce Willis needs to make not hit the planet doesn't have value.

The biggest problem with Galactus is the issue I mentioned before about it not being satisfying for him to simply fly off and go devour billions of sentient lives in someone else's backyard. To this end, writers like to solve Galactus by coming up with some way to either kill him or otherwise end his threat forever. And it's always stupid. Always. No exceptions.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 7th 2018 at 2:55:21 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#87505: Jul 7th 2018 at 1:59:11 PM

wild mass guessGalactus is upgraded into Lifebringer Galactus... turning him into an opposite but equal threat where he smothers planets by drowning them in plant life or introducing billions of invasive species.wild mass guess

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#87506: Jul 7th 2018 at 2:01:41 PM

The Cancerverse is a thing!

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
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#87507: Jul 7th 2018 at 2:07:44 PM

In other cases, Galactus is used as a giant toilet to kill off enemies of the Fantastic Four. Remember when Franklin and Rachel had a kid who went crazy, killed them, and started taking over the multiverse? The Fantastic Four fed him to Galactus just to kill him.

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#87508: Jul 7th 2018 at 3:34:19 PM

The giant pink toilet of the universe.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#87509: Jul 7th 2018 at 4:26:05 PM

I will say this, my pipe dream for film in the future is for DC to get its act together, the two companies to make a once in a lifetime deal and for us to get an adaptation of JLA/Avengers.

And if on the extremely unlikely event that that happens, I want the iconic image of Krona having gutted Galactus and used his body as a power source / housing for his universe creator. It's such a high HSQ moment.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 7th 2018 at 4:27:42 AM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#87511: Jul 9th 2018 at 1:36:31 PM

I’ve seen one person say they want him as J. Jonah Jameson.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#87512: Jul 9th 2018 at 1:40:23 PM

[up]Well the stock photo does give him a cigar.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#87513: Jul 9th 2018 at 1:44:26 PM

He's certainly got the face for it. Looking at more photos of him it's shocking how similar he looks to JK Simmons.

Edited by AlleyOop on Jul 9th 2018 at 4:45:35 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87514: Jul 10th 2018 at 12:56:51 AM

I am not in a hurry to see JJJ...not as long as Peter is still in high school.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#87517: Jul 10th 2018 at 12:31:42 PM

An untitled movie has been moved up from July 30th 2021 to February 12th 2021[1]

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87518: Jul 10th 2018 at 1:25:03 PM

Maybe the Black Panther sequel?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#87520: Jul 11th 2018 at 7:57:57 PM

Ooh, that would be an interesting interaction. That's actually one of the things I'm most looking forward to with Carol, is the heroes we already know interacting with her.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#87521: Jul 12th 2018 at 2:41:38 PM

The Black Widow movie has its director[1]

Edited by ComicFan on Jul 12th 2018 at 2:43:15 AM

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#87522: Jul 12th 2018 at 5:03:18 PM

[up] Nice choice. smile It'll help more on diversity of the crew when making the movies.

Future movie makers should learn from Marvel at the moment.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#87523: Jul 12th 2018 at 6:03:39 PM

The only interesting route for me for a Widow movie would be be to set it during the 90's and be about Widow's early days as she switches sides from the Red Room, have it handle the fallout of the Cold War and the like. Basically the best Black Widow movie ever made is and likely will remain being Atomic Blonde (though that's late 80's and Just Before the End of the Cold War).

As it is, my hope is they do the mother of all prequels and have everyone show up: Have computer Zola show up to chat with Fury, Rumlow and Strucker show up (and the movie explains how they switched sides), show how Widow became friends with Hawkeye (and goddamn Budapest with it), have the Winter Soldier show up to square against Widow, have Aldritch Killian show up as a secondary antagonist. Just go to town.

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#87524: Jul 12th 2018 at 6:40:38 PM

[up] That would be good...if it can make sense to the plot which is not revealed yet.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#87525: Jul 12th 2018 at 8:05:39 PM

So...6 year later, and you know what my favourite scene in the original Avengers movie is?

When just after Hulk and Iron Man tag teamed that first armoured Leviathan...and all the Chitauri are reacting...

...that one dude, who just takes off his mask and starts growling.

I still find it hilarious. It's like... he's in disbelief at what happened.

Chitauri Solider: Wait! Whaaaat? Did they seriously just do that!? I gotta get a closer look at this! <Takes off mask> No way! it's for real!

I just love it! In a movie with so many great scenes, this one is still my favourite. It's just random silliness!

And that's my stupid thread post for the day...or minute considering my kind of posts.

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