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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#87476: Jul 6th 2018 at 7:31:09 PM

The Beyonder and an adaptation of Secret Wars seems like a next logical step.

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#87477: Jul 6th 2018 at 8:35:59 PM

Galactus makes perfect sense.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87478: Jul 6th 2018 at 10:57:50 PM

I vote for them doing the secret invasion storyline.

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#87479: Jul 6th 2018 at 11:11:03 PM

Fancasting the Power Pack would be hard, since any actors you can think of might be good for the roles would probably be too old by the time the movie actually starts getting made.

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#87480: Jul 7th 2018 at 3:47:23 AM

Spider-man clone wars when!?

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#87481: Jul 7th 2018 at 4:20:05 AM

I don't think Galactus would work well, the whole idea he's just this massive force of cosmic nature means he wouldn't really have the humanizing aspects of Thanos. Secret Wars would makes sense, especially if they manage to get Doom back, though I don't know if they have enough recurring villains to M make the "wars" side of it work.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#87482: Jul 7th 2018 at 6:23:31 AM

After Infinity War I'd like something small scale. Maybe just the Masters of Evil. Get some tight character focus on what ever new roster we have.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87483: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:29:07 AM

I agree...Galactus would be better served in the role Ultron had, just better build up...do a Silver Surfer arc, with one origin story for the Silver Surfer, one story about the Got G encountering Galactus (either written as Got G movie or as second Silver Surfer movie), then use Galactus as the big bad for Avengers 5 or 6, leading to him being defeated and then do a movie about Silver Surfer dealing with the guilt of what he has done.

Meanwhile seed the secret invasion arc. You could reveal another Scrull (or a move Fury makes against them) in the end-credit scene of each movie until the sh... hits the fan.

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#87484: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:37:10 AM

Count me in on the Galactus shouldn't really be a movie villain thing. Not because he didn't do plenty of amoral things considering he commits planetary genocide for each meal, but more trying to preserve Galactus being a cosmic force than a villain that you can punch.

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#87485: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:46:55 AM

I'm not really sure if the complex morality of Galactus really fits on the big screen. Galactus is often presented as a threat of such magnitude that he either cannot or should not be destroyed, but also he eats planets. He's more of a Cosmic Horror than a supervillain.

Victory over Galactus generally doesn't mean, "We have slain or captured this terrible foe, ending his threat forever!" Instead, it's usually, "We've driven him away or convinced him not to eat us! He's someone else's problem now! Go Team Us!"

I'm not sure that would make for a very satisfying ending to a film.

EDIT: Ultimate Gah Lak Tus might be more filmable, but we kinda already have a pretty solid adaptation of the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy and it's called Mass Effect. So. I dunno.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 7th 2018 at 8:50:12 AM

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#87486: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:55:35 AM

I'd be down with a standalone one and done cosmic horror teamup Galactus movie where he is diverted or driven away but not defeated

Also Ultimate Galactus is bad and should feel bad

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#87487: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:12:26 AM

If we're going cosmic horror story, Silver Surfer origin story would be great.

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#87488: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:36:13 AM

Yeah, I don't think we should do Secret Invasion before Galactus. The reason why the Skrulls did their Secret Invasion, besides taking advantage of the Iluminati's stupidity, was that Galactus ate their throneworld and the Annihilation Wave destroyed their empire, leading them to dig up a prophecy of Earth being theirs to take as a new throneworld. Even if Annihilation isn't a part of the equation, the destruction of their throneworld is good enough to have a plot, seeing how empires fall into political chaos after something like that happens in real life.

Gah Lak Tus was already in a movie if Peter David & Daniel Josephs' novelization of the Tim Story films were to be taken into account. That iteration of Galactus was so bad, that Dormammu was a better Galactus than Galactus.

Edited by Dr.XXX on Jul 7th 2018 at 11:38:37 AM

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#87489: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:38:03 AM

That's actually a good argument in favor of doing Secret Invasion before Galactus. There's a clear segue there. The Skrulls are fleeing from some great and terrible force that annihilated their throneworld, which builds up to that great and terrible force coming to Earth.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 7th 2018 at 9:39:39 AM

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#87490: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:48:27 AM

That's true, seeing how the EMH cartoon did exactly that.

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#87491: Jul 7th 2018 at 8:52:44 AM

Which was a very good show before it became a very mediocre one

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#87492: Jul 7th 2018 at 10:19:09 AM

I’d prefer Galactus to appear as a concept but not as a character. Kind of like a living equivalent of us going to Knowhere in Guardians: it’s established he’s out there, the characters even encounter him in a breathtaking scene, but like the bigger fish in Phantom Menace the heroes are small fry and he leaves us without incident, while also showing us just how amazing the cosmic environment is. Captain Marvel would be a great place to do this: he’s significant to the Skrull backstory, and can be a thing there without needing to be an active part of Carol’s story.

I’d agree that a movie doesn’t really have the scope to do Galactus very well. If you’re just portraying him as a powerful guy who’s showing up and wants to destroy the planet, like most adaptations do, you’re doing the character a disservice and there’s little he brings to the table that Thanos didn’t already. Playing up the diety and force of nature trappings would change his scope well, but also make him harder to use as a Big Bad for the reasons already stated.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 7th 2018 at 10:24:10 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#87494: Jul 7th 2018 at 11:20:50 AM

As much crap we put the 90s Fantastic Four cartoon through, they portrayed Galactus correctly: devouring worlds and honoring his word to not devour yours if you did something worthy of Galactus.

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#87495: Jul 7th 2018 at 11:23:22 AM

Was that the one where Ghost Rider showed up and kicked Galactus's cosmic ass?

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#87496: Jul 7th 2018 at 11:34:05 AM

Would penance stare work in Galactus?

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#87497: Jul 7th 2018 at 11:39:09 AM

The real issue with using Galactus as a Big Bad is that he doesn't generally plan anything, or make use of any minions beyond Heralds, whose only job is to tell him where tasty planets are. He just shows up, starts devouring the world, and either succeeds or is beaten back. Not really enough plot turns to fill up a movie.

It'd probably be better to use Galactus's arrival as an event that other villains are trying to exploit for their own ends. Like, a villain with a grudge against Earth beats down the Silver Surfer and steals his role as Herald to lead Galactus to the planet, and that's who are heroes spend much of the movie trying to stop. Or maybe some alien has a plan to finally kill Galactus, remove him as a threat to the universe forever, but it means turning Earth into a poison pill that will kill Galactus, then letting him devour it, which are heroes are naturally opposed to, putting the two sides at odds.

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#87498: Jul 7th 2018 at 11:49:53 AM

Huh so Galactus and Ego the living planet having a feud going on,they missed a golden opportunity In Guardians 2 to introduce Galactus in a film where his rival appears

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#87499: Jul 7th 2018 at 12:01:32 PM

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#87500: Jul 7th 2018 at 12:56:39 PM

x5 [up] A moment I would like to forget. Honestly, it shouldn't have worked. Galactus has a similar mentality to Frank Castle: whatever I do or kill, I do it for the greater good. Considering Galactus is a prison for the malevolent entity Abraxas, I say he's right.


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