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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Thor has always had a problem with the people he wants to protect not actually wanting his protection, mostly because Asgard placed Midgard under its authority ages ago even though most of the planet doesn't even know the Asgardians exist, and Thor only kinda sorta started realizing that's a bad thing during Ragnarok.
At around the time of Civil War, werehe on planetside he would've scoffed at the idea of submitting to Earth's government's authorities and bristled at their attempts to make him play ball, just like he did during Avengers 1. On the other hand, I'm not sure he would've joined Steve on ideological grounds, and since he only went after HYDRA to reclaim Loki's scepter I'm not sure he would've joined him on "there's psycho assassins about" grounds.
He probably would've ended up antagonistic to Tony's side but doing his own thing as always.
The only way I could see Bruce signing the Accords is if it said in writing that if he signed and then retired, nobody could lawfully come after him as long as he kept his nose clean. And that's where his friendship with Tony would tank, because Tony would expect Bruce (and Hulk) to be an Avenger with him, and he has a big problem with people not doing what he wants.
He didn't seem to have a problem with Hawkeye or Thor tapping out at the end of Age of Ultron, so I really doubt it'd be an issue to him if Bruce didn't wanna be an Avenger anymore.
That interpretation doesn't even really ring true with what we see in Civil War, where he gives Cap several chances to come over to his side, and only actually gets into a physical confrontation with him when the situation escalates to the point that Ross is about to order Cap's death.
Edited by comicwriter on Jul 2nd 2018 at 2:56:54 AM
If you gave Thor a list of 117 signing countries, he'd probably say "the throne of Asgard do not recognise these states as sovereign" but like, in dialogue befitting of Thor.
He'd probably up for fighting five super solders in an artic wasteland too. I don't see why he wouldn't be on team Steve.
On another note, I really don't think the Accords allow governments to order Avengers to do anything other than stand down. At no point does anyone follow any of Thunderbolt's orders. Rhodey get a court martial, but he's literally US millitary.
So yeah I'm going with the idea that Bruce would sign and then quit. If only to stop the Abomination ever being deployed to other countries under the Avengers.
Game Theory on the physics of Ant-Man as Giant-Man. It's basically just a lesson on mathematics and the square-cube law, no absurd extrapolations here. He does reach some interesting conclusions, like that Scott's legs, at least, would remain unbroken even at his trailer-stated max height of 65 feet.
The demonstrated physics of Pym Particles in the movies run directly counter to Pym's explanation, to the point that I'm pretty sure he has no idea how they work and is talking out of his ass. The thing about weight remaining the same (and thus strength of a punch remaining the same) is demonstrably more complicated than that, since people can ride around on ants without crushing them.
From what I understand, the comics were even worse.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.Yeah, it's best to just ignore Pym's explanation, since you can ride on ants while small and you don't float like a balloon as a giant. Especially since he says it's making the distance between atoms smaller when Scott literally shrinks smaller than atoms at one point. Pym Particles make you small or big, no further explanation needed.
Shrinking smaller than atoms by reducing the gaps between atoms is at least somewhat sensible despite how it sounds; black holes do that by exerting so much gravitational force that the Pauli Exclusion Principle and laws preventing particles from occupying the same space get overpowered, crumpled up, and tossed aside like yesterday's newspaper.
Atoms can be squeezed into points smaller than atoms with enough force, though how the Pym Particle achieves that is anybody's guess.
Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jul 3rd 2018 at 5:11:58 AM
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!If you want an example of a Marvel character whose powers actually work somewhat like how Hank described, look no further than Jack Power, the second youngest member of the Power Pack. If the Power Pack movie pans out, he might even show up. His powers aren't so much shrinking and growing as they are control over his own density. His smallest size is 8 inches tall, and he's only like 8 years old so he's not super heavy even at his densest, though he is very durable and strong. He can't quite grow so much as expand his molecules into a living cloud, though that allows him to fly around as a gas.
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Technically, in the sense of him being an ever-collapsing singularity, yes. That doesn't mean he'd suck in everything around him, though, if that's what you're getting at; he'd be limit-approaching-infinitely dense but he wouldn't have the incredible mass and gravity associated with black holes.

I think Banner would have gotten offended at even being asked to pick a side. He wasn't even comfortable being an Avenger in the first place. As soon as the option was on the table to have the Hulk become officially folded into a military institution, Banner would walk. That's literally the one thing he's spent his life since that day trying to avoid.
So, not one of Tony's Avengers, despite his brohood with Tony. It would take some massive OOC writing for him to be comfortable letting the Hulk serve the United Nations, and even more massive OOC writing for him to be willing to take his marching orders from General Thunderbolt Ross of all people.
But what about Steve? Well, kinda the same problem. Steve has no pressing need or pretense for a gamma scientist. Any conversation he has with Banner is going to be, "I want the Hulk to smash for me." And that's going to leave Banner telling Steve where to shove it.
He tried to tell Thor where to shove it, but he was lost on an alien planet and Thor was his only ride home. Steve doesn't have that luxury.
So. Yeah. Who's side is Banner on? Nobody's. Banner finally takes his ball and goes home like he's been wanting to do for years.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 2nd 2018 at 8:29:23 AM
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