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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#87301: Jun 28th 2018 at 9:16:00 AM

I really like how bulky War Machine is this time around. It's a good way to differentiate it from Iron Man.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#87302: Jun 28th 2018 at 10:13:46 AM

Looks like a transformer if you ask me

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#87303: Jun 28th 2018 at 10:41:54 AM

[up]Not a bad thing, considering the Iron Man suits have been getting sleeker and slimmer.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#87305: Jun 28th 2018 at 11:06:00 AM

War Machine almost looks like an Ultron.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#87306: Jun 28th 2018 at 11:09:39 AM

Oh, if anyone wants to leave comments on that Google doc or make suggestions/alternate ideas, they would all be welcome. I've kinda hit a wall. tongue

My various fanfics.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#87307: Jun 28th 2018 at 11:10:13 AM

What google document?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#87309: Jun 28th 2018 at 11:56:23 AM

What are you linking to?

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#87310: Jun 28th 2018 at 12:08:23 PM

How Avengers Infinity War Should Have Ended.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#87311: Jun 28th 2018 at 1:11:01 PM

youtube: Format isn't working sadly, which means you can only post links.

Edited by Mizerous on Jun 28th 2018 at 4:11:06 AM

Just Makima.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87312: Jun 28th 2018 at 1:28:08 PM

It's funny though. Really funny.

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#87313: Jun 28th 2018 at 1:45:28 PM

Nah, they most likely felt that "maiden" might not be liked that much by female readers.

Ah. That never occurred to me. Fair point, then.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#87315: Jun 29th 2018 at 1:34:44 AM

What if all future movies starring dusted characters are set before Infinity War, and all of those characters really are gone for good?

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#87316: Jun 29th 2018 at 1:40:26 AM

[up] Then it means Thanos was truly victorious in his goal and the original ones are the ones set after it to fill the space...

Yeah, I smell bullshit on that kind of thought.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#87317: Jun 29th 2018 at 2:09:36 AM

Way I see it, all movies after Infinity War are set in one of two different time periods: pre-snap and post-snap. The pre-snap movies focus more on the characters who got dusted, and the post-snap movies focus on the characters who didn't. The pre-snap movies are lighter in tone, the post-snap movies are darker in tone.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#87318: Jun 29th 2018 at 2:11:39 AM

Yeah at this point I'm certain that everyone who got dusted is going to be revived.

However, I'm wondering if they're going to be revived a year after the events of their dusting, and just, half of the world going to have to cope with the other half living a year without them. And half the world if just, horribly traumatised for ever. Or will some time travel stuff mean that only the protagonists of Avengers 4 remember the year?

Like, I don't mind resets if characters remember what was reset? Because I don't like seing character development thrown away. But the issue is, that, there's no way you could do a temporal reset and have every non-dusted protagonist remember stuff, because that's just way too many characters to have go back in time?

Non dusted super hero characters are the original six, rocket, Nebula, Okeyo, M'baku, Shuri (possibly), War Machine, Captain Marvel, Ant-Man, Wasp (I think that's been confirmed?), Valkyrie (also confirmed). That's sixteen characters! Are all of them going to be able to remember the year? Only some of them? Like, when these characters appear in future films, are they going to have different memories?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87319: Jun 29th 2018 at 2:17:01 AM

Perhaps the world will remember and the dusted characters just turn up again. That would be my favourite scenario, because than the consequences would be the most far reaching. Or they do a reset, but the non-dusted characters (all of them) will still be able to remember what happened.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#87320: Jun 29th 2018 at 2:35:33 AM

Those two scenarios would be my favourite. But I wonder if future movies could do justice to how traumatising it would be for families to have to deal with their children and parents being lost for a year.

Perhaps Spiderman Far From Home could do it. Peter dealing with half his friends now being a year above him, and Aunt May dealing with outlining him for a year is thematically very Spider-man.

But would Black Panther 2 have to address Shuri presumibly being Queen for as year? That's a lot of baggage to put on a film.

Really I'd love to see Agents of Shield spend a season exploring a year without half the population. I think other TV shows should avoid it, but I think SHIELD could really get into this Y: The Last Man scenario.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87321: Jun 29th 2018 at 3:12:22 AM

Speaking of the TV shows...Luke Cage last season mentioned in passing a character named "O'Reilly" leaving the police force. This also happens to be the name of the detective character in Cloak and Dagger. So far I thought this was just a coincidence, but nope, the last episode it was mentioned that she was working in Harlem before going to New Orleans...making this the first time a Netflix show is referring in any way to a non-Netflix show and I think hinting to them putting a little bit more effort in building lose connections.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#87322: Jun 29th 2018 at 3:56:59 AM

I'm expecting references to the TV shows to start becoming more frequent in the films now. Given that marvel films usually spend three years in production, we're getting to the point that the films are being scripted after the first few Netflix seasons.

Daredevil had an Easter egg in Infinity War, and the Russio brothers said they were tempted to include TV characters if the scope wasn't already so bloated.

Spider-man would be the IP you'd most expect defenders to be namedropped in given that they work in the same city. So we'll see.

I don't really expect any one Defender to turn up in the films until their series leave active development. Because it's difficult to script a TV series and a film at the same time given the different production time spans.

Same is true for the other shows. If series 6 proves to be SHIELD's last, at that point I would suspect live action film appearances for the characters.

I really would love a Runaways/Defenders crossover in a later Runaways season. Escape to New York was one of my favourite Runaways storylines.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87323: Jun 29th 2018 at 4:44:44 AM

I think it would be cool if Bobby and Hunter turn um on ANY of the shows. Or in the movies. I mean, the characters have been written out of Agents of Shield, so the risk of creating continuity errors is really low.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#87324: Jun 29th 2018 at 5:40:45 AM

Aye, Bobbie and Hunter would be obvious. I think it's just a matter of a writer wanting to use them. Or possibly a writer wanting to use an established superhero and asking who in the stable isn't currently in active development.

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#87325: Jun 29th 2018 at 8:38:59 AM

What was the Daredevil Easter egg?


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