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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#87276: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:48:41 PM

Spider Man: Home Alone, in which Peter was left behind by Aunt May to go married Doctor Octopus.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#87277: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:01:27 PM

@comicwriter

Is there supposed to be a Youtube video attached to your post? It's not showing up with the site update, at least not for now.

XJTordecai Watch the seventh wave Since: Jun, 2013
Watch the seventh wave
#87278: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:04:31 PM

new layout wut dis

I saw Iron Man 3 last night while it was on TV. Or rather, I caught it when it was at the point where Ellen Brandt attacked Tony. Anyway, it was...okay I guess? Some cool/amusing moments (the gag with Rhodey's password was kinda funny) but it didn't leave much of an impression. Watchable but so-so. Also yeah, you guys weren't kidding about Aldrich Killian. What a lame, lame villain (with an ugly mullet). I wish I had more to say. I probably would if I watched it again all the way through. But for now it's in my bottom 3 or so MCU movies I've seen, only above Age of Ultron and Doctor Strange.

On my wave, passing oooooooon
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#87279: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:45:42 PM

Even if Ant Man And The Wasp is well-recieved, it will still be infected with Sequelitis at the box office.

I very much doubt it. The general trend for the sequels so far is to outgross their predecessors, with the only exception being Age of Ultron. And given that the first Ant-Man was one of the MCU's lowest-grossing entries, it wouldn't be very hard for the sequel to do better.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#87280: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:48:29 PM

Despite all its problems both ethical and narrative I still enjoy it, but not nearly as much as I used to. I'd probably put it in the bottom third since it's been eclipsed by nearly all other Phase 2 films and every one of the Phase 3 films barring Dr Strange. It mostly eludes the absolute bottom by coasting on RDJ's considerable charm and being more coherent than Iron Man 2.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87281: Jun 26th 2018 at 10:14:06 PM

Well, Ironman 3 has also the Mandarin twist going for it (yes, I like the idea, I just don't like how they get there and with what the Mandarin gets replaced) and the ski jumping scene, which is still one of the best action scenes in the MCU.

Ant-man and the Wasp doesn't have that high of a mountain to climb. Nobody expects it to be more than a modest success. And it has good wom. Don't expect it to jump high early, though. For one, I don't think that there is the same urgency to see the movie as other Marvel movies create and two, for once a lot of countries will get the movie with a delay (because we are currently all busy watching the World Cup, which is unusually exiting this time around), so it will take some time until Ant-man and the Wasp really reaches the big numbers. I expect it to be one of those movies which don't start overly strong, but eventually gets there due to having legs. Marvel's timing couldn't be better, it will be weeks before another Superhero movie can challenge this one.

Spiderman: Home is where the heart is Spiderman: Home alone Spiderman: Home again Spiderman: Homing Spider Spiderman: A new Home

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#87282: Jun 26th 2018 at 10:21:18 PM

I don't remember a ski jumping scene in Iron Man 3. I remember a fantastic scene where Tony helps a bunch of people survive free-fall by coordinating them to hold hands so he can slow them down, is that what you were thinking of?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87283: Jun 26th 2018 at 10:56:41 PM

Jup...I always call it the "sky jumping scene" because they actually filmed the whole thing in the sky. It's not CGI, it's mostly practical.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#87284: Jun 26th 2018 at 11:02:40 PM

See, I got confused because you mistyped "ski jumping", which is very different from "sky jumping". I would have absolutely known what you were talking about if you had said the latter.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87285: Jun 26th 2018 at 11:27:30 PM

Ooops...sorry, didn't notice…

anyway, that scene is easily the best part of the movie. And while one scene doesn't turn a mediocre movie into a good one, it can paper over some of the cracks and make it feel less of a waste of time.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#87286: Jun 27th 2018 at 3:00:33 AM

I feel like giving our views on Iron Man 3 is akin to Sisyphus being cursed to push the boulder up the hill forever.

However, I don't think I've ever mentioned how much I love the dynamic between Tony and the kids in this film? Best thing about Shane Black is his ability to direct a child actor. And I really like the character point that Tony treats kids as equals. It's kind of cool that Tony can be a lot more emotionally honest with kids?

After three films of Tony being an asshole, seeing him be good with kids was exactly what we needed.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87287: Jun 27th 2018 at 5:41:41 AM

Best thing is how it pays off later on...because in this movie, he pretty much refuses to take up any kind of mentor role for the kid. He just throws money/stuff at him but otherwise shows no interest in guiding him. But after the Ultron incident, Tony is talking the first time about maybe having a family in a joking mode. A few movies later though he is ready to takes up a mentor role for Peter and the next time we see him he is actually talking to Pepper about the possibility of having children.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#87288: Jun 27th 2018 at 6:50:54 AM

Oooh, well spotted. I like that meta.

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#87289: Jun 27th 2018 at 7:13:07 AM

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but here you go: https://www.cbr.com/power-pack-movie-kevin-feige/

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#87290: Jun 27th 2018 at 7:35:37 AM

So...with that plan in mind, could the Power Pack be introduced around 2022?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#87291: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:09:09 AM

I hope so, but I think an animated medium or live action tv series would be better. I really don't want it to evolve into teenage angst. I really want to see pre-teen superheroes be that age for a while.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#87292: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:18:06 AM

Backdoor pilot a Power Pack cartoon through the Moon Girl one.

Mainly because I'd love to see Moon Girl interact with more heroes her approximate age. It'd be great.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#87294: Jun 27th 2018 at 8:33:58 PM

I remember doing something like that, but with Nintendo. I was most proud of Lysandre as Alexander Pierce, Little Mac as Luis ('cause they knock people out with mega punches), Gonzap as Adrian Toomes (with Skarmory wingsuit), Shura as Yondu, and Melissa Bergman as Arnim Zola, with Mother Brain replacing Zola's computer form and a classic self-destruct replacing the HYDRA missile strike. tongue

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jun 27th 2018 at 11:35:29 AM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#87295: Jun 27th 2018 at 9:42:06 PM

Hades as the Grandmaster and Kronk as the Executioner killed me.

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#87296: Jun 27th 2018 at 9:44:13 PM

[up][up][up]Should have made Belle's superhero name Iron Maiden. Just saying.

I'm convinced the only reason neither Pepper nor Riri were called that was so Marvel wouldn't get their asses sued.

Edited by MapleSamurai on Jun 27th 2018 at 9:44:13 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87297: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:00:12 PM

Nah, they most likely felt that "maiden" might not be liked that much by female readers.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#87298: Jun 27th 2018 at 10:11:13 PM

[up][up][up] Aren't they perfect, though?

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Jun 27th 2018 at 1:12:40 PM

My various fanfics.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#87299: Jun 28th 2018 at 4:05:45 AM

The Original Black Panther Suit Is Going on Public Display for 4 Days Only

https://www.themarysue.com/black-panther-suit-is-on-display/

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#87300: Jun 28th 2018 at 7:48:17 AM

Promo art for Avengers 4 has popped up, including Captain Marvel.

Edited by comicwriter on Jun 28th 2018 at 7:48:29 AM


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