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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#87126: Jun 22nd 2018 at 12:28:38 PM

In the comic, Matt actually mocks Tony by giving him a coin and saying that Stark aka Judas can add it to the pieces of silver he sold out his friends for.

I don't know what was dumber - that the comic actually compared Stark to Judas or that Matt just had a coin under his tongue in the hopes he'd run into Stark to give it to him and explain the significance of the coin.

edited 22nd Jun '18 12:28:55 PM by windleopard

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#87127: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:03:29 PM

Symbolically Zemo is the devil,he manages to turn everyone against other through manipulation

Also,was anyone else expecting Black Widow to Fight Scarlet Witch in one on one?Granted Scarlet would have overpowered her but still

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:05:26 PM by Ultimatum

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#87128: Jun 22nd 2018 at 4:01:43 PM

But if Stark were Judas, he’d be on the left side, since that’s where Judas is in the painting.

By their positions, Bucky would be Judas? / Peter? / John?, Stark would be Jesus, and Cap would be Thomas? / James? / Philip?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87129: Jun 22nd 2018 at 4:04:55 PM

I don't think that you can call some quadrats in the background a reference, intentional or otherwise. They most likely simply scouted the location and said "yeah, this looks great".

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#87130: Jun 22nd 2018 at 4:44:55 PM

[up][up] Who shoots the Judas bullet then?

Just Makima.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#87131: Jun 22nd 2018 at 4:50:46 PM

Cottonmouth?

But yeah, if that is an allusion to The Last Supper (which seems plausible given that comics scene mentioned with Daredevil), I think it's actually an unusually subtle example.

Also, since the Judas Bullets were mentioned, I do find it hilarious and telling how in the Netflix shows, that's all that was salvaged of Cithauri tech and each one is ruinously expnsive. And then in Homecoming, you have Toomes' associate selling wave motion guns like candy from the back of a truck.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#87132: Jun 22nd 2018 at 5:37:51 PM

Ant-Man and the Wasp featurette with some Janet stuff.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#87133: Jun 22nd 2018 at 7:52:54 PM

Heh, this mashup trailer is awesome. [lol]

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87134: Jun 23rd 2018 at 5:27:56 AM

Well, I've watched the second season of Luke Cage...and while it never really reached the highs the first episodes of the season one had, overall I actually liked it better. In fact, of all of the "second seasons" so far, I think that one is the best, partly because it takes advantage of the Netflix verse, making it feel more like something which is part of a bigger while than just some isolated story, while also still being able to stand on its own.

On other news, Cloak and Dagger is still all kind of awesome. Can't recommend the show enough.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#87135: Jun 23rd 2018 at 10:08:46 AM

The first reactions to Ant-Man and the Wasp are in. They're mostly saying it's better than the first, Hope is awesome, and that Luis once agains steals the movie. And also the post-credits are really big.

GamerManDrew Since: Jun, 2018
#87136: Jun 23rd 2018 at 11:27:50 AM

[up]How was Ghost received because I heard she is In Name Only

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#87137: Jun 23rd 2018 at 12:59:49 PM

Glad to hear it's still good as a completely Edgar Wright-free product.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#87138: Jun 23rd 2018 at 4:28:45 PM

Here they are. Minor spoilers. Consensus seems to be not as weighty as Black Panther or serious as Infinity War, but still incredibly fun and hilarious. Also sounds like Ghost may be an Anti-Villain.

edited 23rd Jun '18 4:29:13 PM by comicwriter

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#87140: Jun 23rd 2018 at 6:12:04 PM

Bucky is BEST Disney Princess.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#87141: Jun 23rd 2018 at 6:13:15 PM

Fake news. He wasn't poisoned or cursed.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#87142: Jun 23rd 2018 at 6:27:20 PM

Bucky's problems were mostly solved by his big, strong childhood best friend showing up.

[nja] Whoop, looked at the picture again.

edited 23rd Jun '18 6:41:17 PM by Soble

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#87143: Jun 23rd 2018 at 7:12:52 PM

Spoiler-Man strikes again as he reveals Spider-Man Far From Home as the sequel to homecoming.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#87144: Jun 23rd 2018 at 7:25:43 PM

I am not surprised at all that the second Ant-man is better. I was sure that if Reed had time to do it right than to work off whatever Wright left him, he could do a superior movie. After all, based on what I think is the wright stuff and what I suspect is the Reed stuff, I think he gets the franchise better. Especially in terms of the importance of Wasp.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#87145: Jun 23rd 2018 at 7:40:54 PM

I’m still mad that Wright kept OG Wasp out of Avengers so he could fridge her.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87146: Jun 23rd 2018 at 7:42:30 PM

Is he why Hank has no connection to Ultron?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
XJTordecai Watch the seventh wave Since: Jun, 2013
Watch the seventh wave
#87147: Jun 23rd 2018 at 7:49:48 PM

Hearing that Hope is cool and stuff is about 70% of the battle won for me. Some good ol' Luis doesn't hurt either. My expectations are that it won't be as good as Civil War, Got G 2, Homecoming, Ragnarok, Black Panther or Infinity War but still plenty enjoyable and a solid improvement over the first movie. And hey, being merely inferior to any of the aforementioned movies is hardly an insult in my opinion.

On my wave, passing oooooooon
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#87148: Jun 23rd 2018 at 8:59:09 PM

Fake news. He wasn't poisoned or cursed.

I would argue that dying because a grape snapped his fingers counts as at least one of those.

edited 23rd Jun '18 8:59:16 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#87149: Jun 23rd 2018 at 10:06:06 PM

I mean, Sleeping Beauty was temporarily killed by a spinning wheel and Snow White by an unwise choice of fruit. A fingersnap fits right in.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#87150: Jun 24th 2018 at 1:29:10 AM

Now I'm curious how Maleficent or the evil Queen would react to Thanos.


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