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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86926: Jun 1st 2018 at 12:12:40 PM

What is your opinion on "Surfer Dude" Silver Surfer? Far as I know, only one adaptation did that and it was Super Hero Squad, which did a lot of odd things (like having said dudebro Silver Surfer be the Big Bad of Season 2). That said, it is a unique idea that does add a bit of inherent levity to what is usually a fairly humorless character. It also explains why he'd make the Power Cosmic give him superpowers incorporating a surfboard, of all things: he was already a surfer and just went with what was familiar.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#86927: Jun 1st 2018 at 12:42:32 PM

The Incredibles was the superhero family movie fantastic 4 movie should have been

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#86928: Jun 1st 2018 at 12:47:36 PM

Well, I dunno about that. While Incredibles nails the family aspect (with power-expies of the Four, no less), it's ultimately more of a spy movie starring superheroes than something I could really see as a Fantastic Four-styled movie.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#86929: Jun 1st 2018 at 12:54:38 PM

[up][up]My favorite part of the new Cosmonaut Variety Hour video was when he said Winter Solider was a good Metal Gear Solid movie [lol]

edited 1st Jun '18 12:54:55 PM by RedM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86930: Jun 1st 2018 at 12:57:15 PM

Yeah, the Incredibles comes the closest to a fantastic four movie, but in order to actually be one it needs the explorer aspect. Basically you need a marriage between The incredibles and Duck tales.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#86931: Jun 1st 2018 at 12:58:17 PM

Welllllllll

There is a tanker chapter, some tactical espionage action, and a couple super soldiers

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#86932: Jun 1st 2018 at 1:10:39 PM

Fuck a lot can be done with the FF.

A family of scientists & explorers who also happen to superhero on the side.

SO much can be done with that especially with Reed & Sue being actually married with children.

Plus we need Ben's annual superhero poker tournaments.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
czhang from Canada Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#86933: Jun 1st 2018 at 1:46:08 PM

It would take a while for all the pieces to be introduced, but I really enjoyed Matt Fraction's FF series from a few years ago and I think it would make for a pretty good movie. It's basically 4 heroes have to fill in as the Fantastic Four, which includes babysitting the pack of genius kids that is the Future Foundation (including mutants, Inhumans, Atlanteans, mole people, aliens, and ). In the comic it was Ant-Man (Scott Lang), She-Hulk, Medusa, and pop superstar Darla Deering (who later became Miss Thing), but I think any combination of 4 heroes has the potential to work if they put enough thought into it. I'm envisioning it as something like a lighthearted slice-of-life family story set in an elementary school, but with the weirdness cranked waaaayyyyy up.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#86934: Jun 3rd 2018 at 10:36:48 AM

Luis returns.

edited 3rd Jun '18 10:37:31 AM by comicwriter

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#86935: Jun 3rd 2018 at 10:44:32 AM

Give Luis A Suit

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VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#86936: Jun 3rd 2018 at 11:24:31 AM

Why do I get the feeling that's gonna be a moment of Harsher in Hindsight?

edited 3rd Jun '18 11:24:45 AM by VoidsEmpathy

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86937: Jun 3rd 2018 at 2:18:04 PM

But no seriously, give Luis a suit. Give Luis something. Give Luis anything.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#86938: Jun 3rd 2018 at 2:23:04 PM

Give him Crossbones' old piston gauntlets so his punches are even more powerful.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#86939: Jun 3rd 2018 at 3:54:11 PM

I had a partly joking idea that he could become Taskmaster.

I based this both on a thought that Luis' quirks/expert knowledge could fit well with Taskmaster's Photographic Memory, as well as the fact that the recent Nick Spencer comics run sort of framed Taskmaster as Scott's Arch-Enemy. Which is why I moved away from the idea. Because while Taskmaster is a really cool guy, to become him, Luis would have to lose everything that makes him lovable.

edited 3rd Jun '18 3:54:26 PM by Hodor2

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#86940: Jun 3rd 2018 at 4:55:41 PM

Give him a non size powerset though please. We're already at five characters with it. It can still come from pym particles if you like; they can do a lot. Ghost and Vision being able to become super dense or sparse so to phase through things is cool. Luis liberating Ghost's suit and powerset would be fitting for his existing criminal expert powerset.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#86941: Jun 3rd 2018 at 6:52:10 PM

He can become the Ant Whisperer.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#86942: Jun 3rd 2018 at 7:21:52 PM

Well, I do hope that Ghost will survive the movie and become a good guy or at least Boxed Crook in a future Thunderbolts/Dark Reign movie.

Had a thought though (not saying it's likely). So I was looking on the Ant-Man wikipedia page and I was reminded of the Hijacker identity which was originally used by one guy as an Ant-Man villain and then used with an unnamed second guy who takes on the identity in Nick Spencers' series (the central joke is that just as Scott is sort of a Sketchy Successor to Hank, a lot of Hank's opponents also have sketchy successors), as an opponent and later ally.

Since the character (both of them) is basically a crook/car thief who uses technological paraphernalia (first incarnation) and nanomachines (second incarnation), it would totally work for Louis to have a suit that can manipulate matter in some way due to Pym Particles/ Quantum Realm tech, and I could totally see him calling himself The Hijacker and being told it is an Atrocious Alias.

And I like it because although it was temporary, the second Hijacker was an ally of Scott and an employee of his security company, which makes for a good parallel with Luis.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#86943: Jun 3rd 2018 at 7:33:11 PM

Ghost is interesting me, because it seems from what little clips we see of her that she doesn't actually seem to like having the power she was given. From the looks of it, I get the impression that she was trying to steal Pym tech but ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time - in the middle of a Quantum Realm experiment - and got inhuman (not literally) power that horrifies her. I really want to know what makes her jump from that to threatening the world.

edited 3rd Jun '18 7:33:28 PM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#86944: Jun 3rd 2018 at 9:32:25 PM

Is it power innate to her, or just the power of her suit?

More importantly, what would happen if she un-phased while inside a wall or another person?

edited 3rd Jun '18 9:33:05 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#86946: Jun 3rd 2018 at 11:49:53 PM

Also, even if she isn't inside something solid like a wall, isn't she filling herself with harmfully-excessive air, dust, and other foreign airborne particles whenever she un-phases anywhere except an empty vacuum?

Phasing powers suck.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#86947: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:40:10 AM

So, I came across a pretty old but interesting statistic: Google Search for Captain Marvel spikes by around 3000% around the release of Infinity War, with the highest spike not in the US and Canada, but in... South East Asia! (Philippines and Singapore have the biggest spike by 60% while Hong Kong and Malaysia spikes by 50%, roughly equal with Puerto Rico and far more than the US 27%). Seems that Infinity War gave Captain Marvel significant hype in the international market.

edited 4th Jun '18 5:58:29 AM by shatterstar

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86948: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:47:29 AM

Sure it did...it was frankly a brilliant move by Marvel. Since they couldn't marked her on being the first female Comic book lead the way Warner Bros did with Wonder Woman (and that was already a lie), they needed a different hook.

Now the movie only needs good reviews and it should be a success.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#86949: Jun 4th 2018 at 3:47:27 AM

So it seems Benedict Cumberbatch is a lot more herioc in real life than I thought given he saved someone from a mugging recently.

https://www.themarysue.com/benedict-cumberbatch-stops-mugging/

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#86950: Jun 4th 2018 at 8:36:16 AM

I wonder how much boxing training he has from practicing for movies.


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