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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#86802: May 26th 2018 at 10:56:01 AM

I did notice in the credits that they had to get permission to use a character from Arrested Development, but I never saw the actual cameo.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#86803: May 26th 2018 at 11:03:53 AM

He's blurred in the background when the Guardians are sneaking around in Knowhere, right before they confront Thanos.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#86804: May 26th 2018 at 11:15:21 AM

It's Tobias, in his nevernude cutoffs. And he blue himself, too.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#86805: May 26th 2018 at 11:19:32 AM

It makes some sense he would be a target of the Collector, "There are dozens of us!"

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#86806: May 26th 2018 at 6:42:59 PM

Notably, the collection he appears in isn't real. It's a reproduction generated by the Reality Gem. So he might not actually be in the Collector's possession; it's possible that Thanos just really likes the show.

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#86807: May 26th 2018 at 7:05:56 PM

I would love that to be true

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#86808: May 27th 2018 at 7:58:03 AM

He's obviously studied earth culture, so it fits, or rather he's studied Tony Stark, so perhaps they're joint fans of the show

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#86809: May 27th 2018 at 6:22:39 PM

He stole Tony's Netflix account password.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#86810: May 28th 2018 at 12:22:09 PM

Bunch of new Ant-Man and Wasp footage.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#86811: May 28th 2018 at 12:51:42 PM

I figure it's probably super spoilery, but I'm surprised we still haven't seen a lick of Janet Pym yet.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#86812: May 28th 2018 at 12:53:25 PM

"Also we have to save the world." Yeah about that...

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86814: May 28th 2018 at 2:04:41 PM

Honestly, after this trailer I an starting to wonder if they are trying to pull one over us...I still think that Janet Van Dyne being aged after they established in the first movie that time works differently in the microverse doesn't make sense to me. I wouldn't put it past them to give out a wrong name for the role Cathrine Zeto Jones plays so that we don't figure out who actually has the role...

Either that or they rightly assume that the majority of the audience has no idea that Janes is supposed to be in this movie....

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#86815: May 28th 2018 at 2:38:51 PM

Catherine Zeta Jones isn't in the movie.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86816: May 28th 2018 at 2:50:08 PM

[up] She isn't? I could have sworn that there were casting rumours....*looks it up*...oh, okay, Michelle Pfeiffer....anyway, my point stands. I wouldn't put it past them to put out fake information to mislead us.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#86817: May 28th 2018 at 2:52:10 PM

All it amounted to was Michael Douglas' wishful thinking of saying he'd like his wife to be in the movie, nothing more.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86818: May 28th 2018 at 2:53:35 PM

[up] Right...honestly, I try to not pay too much attention to the behind the scenes stuff, but if you are in the net, you'll stumble over some of the stuff. The only thing I actively avoid are toy spoilers.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#86819: May 28th 2018 at 5:22:05 PM

I don't see why they'd put out fake information to mislead anyone about Pfeiffer's role.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#86820: May 28th 2018 at 7:49:06 PM

[up] Agreed.

The simplest explanation is that they want to keep the circumstances of her reappearance ambiguous for the marketing, so they are hiding her. Marvel has hid characters in the marketing before. The Vision for example barely appeared in Age of Ultron's marketing despite being a crucial character in the actual movie.

What there is no precedence for is Marvel announcing an actor/actress is playing a significant character and then it turns out they aren't. While stuff is hidden in the casting on occasion, it's always either pretending they are playing an original character by casting them under an MCU-specific alias, or they just don't give us any name at all.

Or in other words, the only way I'd entertain the notion of Michelle Pfeiffer not playing the original Wasp is if she was playing a character of substantially more significance to the Ant-Man franchise. And I feel that's a category of zero.

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#86821: May 28th 2018 at 7:51:33 PM

The closest lie we've got is Ben Kingsley as the Mandarin, and even then the promotion for the film pushed a lot for Aldritch Killian anyways.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#86822: May 28th 2018 at 8:00:00 PM

And as we all know, nothing went wrong with the Mandarin thing.

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#86823: May 28th 2018 at 10:08:24 PM

( Reads people mentioning the Mandarin plot twist that was meant to be forgotten. )

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#86824: May 28th 2018 at 10:13:58 PM

Meant to be forgotten?

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#86825: May 28th 2018 at 10:17:23 PM

( Watch All Hail The King nothing about the Ten Rings has been heard about again )

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