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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
This just reminds me of the Punisher Last Days Secret Wars tie-in where after killing Sandman with bullets somehow, Frank Castle spent his last hours of existence torturing terorrists because he's the kind of guy that thinks cessation of existence is getting off easy
It was not my favorite tie-in
edited 13th May '18 8:49:16 PM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersJust a quick note because it was mentioned on the last page- the significance of the Milgram experiment is incredibly overblown.
Also, I’ve been trying to find demographic data- Milgram had a pretty small sample size, and I don’t think he even attempted to consider race/gender issues.
To date, it's the only show I turned off out of complete and utter boredom.
This song needs more love.Okay, fact check.
We don't see Frank actually participating in the torture. He does stand by and let it happen, but that applies to all of his team, and he's only used to execute the prisoner.
Frank absolutely was under the impression that the people being tortured deserved it. He and his whole team was lied to by a government conspiracy.
Frank's one-man rampage was because his team was pinned down by an ambush, and the only people he killed there were enemy combatants.
The only thing Frank did wrong in the past was tolerate torture, and it haunts him to the modern day. It's made very explicit that Frank was a much more ruthless and single-minded person during the war and he made a habit of not questioning orders. It's also clear that he was wrong for doing so and regrets his actions.
The Milgram experiment might have flaws, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't tell us anything about human nature. For example that the test persons were more likely to obey if they couldn't see the person they were torturing. Plus, it is by far not the only experiment based on testing out how humans react if you give them the power over other people or even suggest that they are somehow superior. All those tests tend to have the same result: Humans are prone to losing control over themselves if they are put in very specific situations, especially if there is some sort of group dynamic involved. And no, this is not an excuse, just something one should keep in mind.
Anyway, I don't mind how they portrayed Castle's role in the torture and killing of prisoners mostly because in the end Castle himself rejects the notion that he was just following orders and declares himself being guilty. That is the note the show left on, and I approve. We can understand why people react in such a way in such situations, but that doesn't mean that they aren't guilty.
The gun control episode on the other hand....that is basically a high budget NRA propaganda video.
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Milgram didn’t even run proper controls. The authority figure often deviated from the script, and the sample size was quite small. He didn’t have volunteers of many races (I can’t find any evidence that any of his volunteers were non-white), he ran all his experiments at Yale using locals, the volunteers were self-selected (people who replied to a newspaper ad) and the famous 65% number? That came from a sample size of 40 men. And again, from a non-standard script which was supposed to be focused on neutral authority, but which was often implemented with variations which more closely resemble coercion and bullying. Which is not the same thing.
How significant a study is depends on how closely the variables are controlled and how wide/deep the study goes in its number of participants and demographic spread. If the 65% Milgram experiment shows anything, it’s only about white men aged 20-50 in New Haven, Connecticut in the 1960s.
So, good news, Agents of SHIELD has been renewed
for a Season 6 to consist of 13 episodes.
YES!!!!!! YES!!!!!!
Because I can't really handle another cancellation after the most recent "I'm a Marvel, I'm DC".....
Wow...that was...kinda sad.
I mean, I hope whatever crazy plan Deadpool and Rosarch (sp) have in store works, but seeing the DC guys just admit defeat brought a tear to my eyes.
I'll say this much for that dude: he has a great respect for all the characters. I've believed that ever since that one Marvel / DC video that addressed the Superman is way too powerful and I can't relate to him argument that everyone and their mother churns out.
One Strip! One Strip!

I’d even go as far as to say the Netflix version of the character is the most heroic and sympathetic the character has ever been in an adaptation.
edited 13th May '18 7:46:13 PM by KnownUnknown