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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Agreed. Kamala's origin is too important to skip.
And if they want to cover her origin, just use what Agents of Shield set up.
I mean, nothing else that happens in the movies has contradicted it, so it'd be easy to do so.
One Strip! One Strip!I don't see the problem...just put a quick summary at the start of the movie. Hell, you don't even need that. You can start with her transformation and then the first half of the movie is about them conveying in the scenes that yes, there are now suddenly people developing powers and they are called inhumans. It's not like you have to even mention Fish oil pills. Theoretically she can transform just by ending up in the wrong rain.
edited 12th May '18 3:14:02 PM by Swanpride
I am weirdly conflicted about the idea of a Ms. Marvel happening potentially soonish, while also acknowledging that she needed to happen and very much looking forward to it.
The only real issue I see is that she's such a recent character that I feel like a movie series runs the very real risk of outstripping the comics in terms of what to do with her character and I'm not sure what they'd do about it.
Like, take Spider-Man. He may have started as a teenager, but relative to his character history he wasn't in high school for very long at all, and since then there's been plenty of stories of adult Peter (no matter how much some of the writers seem to want to regress him) it doesn't matter if the actor gets too old to convincingly play a high school student. Kamala, on the other hand, isn't quite there yet, and given how Comic-Book Time works it's still likely going to be a while. So I'm curious and honestly a little apprehensive about what they're going to do if/when they reach the point that Kamala can't be a teenager anymore in the MCU but comics!Kamala is still a teenager.
But it's a minor point, because a) it's Marvel Studios and their track record speaks for itself, and b) because Kamala Khan is awesome and adorable. And maybe they can reboot the Inhumans from that awful show and include precious goodboy Lockjaw maybe?
I'll agree with that.
I wonder what storylines of hers you could adapt, though. She's a bit too recent for me to say what's "iconic", I think.
...I'd like to see the story of Zoe becoming a less shitty person, at least.
Oh God! Natural light!I'd be down with a movie that really explores the people that live in a superhero universe. Kamala's own series is often about living in a neighborhood and a city that is often impacted by superhero events - which is something Homecoming touches on but doesn't really embrace. Having the main arc be Kamala growing into being the representative and guardian who stands for everyone around her, and all (something Homecoming only really approaches from the opposite direction: of "do you want to be an Avenger, or be a regular guy?" rather than "can I shoulder the responsibility of helping the people around me?")
Likewise having Kamala as a character who explicitly builds herself around her own idolatization and emulation of superheroes (and, as she matures, her growing both out of it and growing into it simultaneously), which was a great idea in the comics and would continue to be a great idea in film form.
Given both, I think a loose adaptation of her inaugural Inventor story could work, maybe with the stakes upped a little (and maybe change who precisely the villain is, since I think the whole clone of Thomas Edison thing
works more in the bonkers world of comics than it would in film). Start with kids disappearing and nobody really caring, and then only Kamala realizes that this is getting worse and worse, that the villain is poisoning the bodies and minds of her community and subtly eviscerating it, poised to do the same to the whole city, and that the powers she's not seriously getting the hang of mark her as the only person who can stand for the people everyone overlooks, etc. Something kinda Spielberg-kid-hero-esque, I guess.
If they go for the "ideological counterpart" idea for an antagonist (though imo, that kind of thing is better fit for a sequel than Marvel tends to give it credit for), then some kind of adaptation of Becky St. Jude
is probably a good idea as well. Especially if Kamala's arc involves moving away from the things she used to idolize, vs a character who becomes more fixated as time goes on with those things.
edited 12th May '18 11:34:14 PM by KnownUnknown
I think her origin deserves to be included. Thematically, it shows how Kamala is burdened with feeling like she's constantly a failure and wants to people to admire her, which is a foreshadowing of the villain and his "millennials are worthless leeches" plot. It's also a pretty direct satire of how media displays largely only white heroes as paragons to look up to, and if the MCU wants to be better about surpassing that then by all means let them acknowledge their culpability in the matter.
I don't see any reason to change her origin all that much aside from the context of global events.
If it's done in a solo or teamup film, just start the movie off with a flashback to some of the original Kree experiments, then just have her encounter a loose terragen crystal in modern day.
The Kree are already a known quantity on the movie side of the MCU. And you don't need to explain anything about Inhumans as a culture, just a little about were their powers originate from.
The reason basically boils down to some people realy hating the Inhumans TV show, me, while it was crap and I’m glad this gone, it’s not even the MCU TV snow that I found the worst to watch.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranVisually it's more impressive if Kamala breaks out of a coccoon looking like Carol Marvel
Mutants don't have that same biz going on
edited 13th May '18 6:52:23 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSpeaking of not film, I got around to watching Runaways recently and it may be one of my favorite marvel shows now
The expansion of the parents and the attempts by the kids to unravel what's been going on, the shifting dynamics between the kids with every reveal, and of course Old Lace was a delight
edited 13th May '18 7:54:59 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI liked the slower burn because it helped address some of the weaknesses of the comic
I'm really looking forward to the second season
Forever liveblogging the AvengersNah I liked Iron Fist, I liked Runaway as well (though like many people I was annoyed that it took an entire season for them to actually run away).
The only MCU property I was unable to finish watched was the Punisher, I realise I’m in a minority there but I just couldn’t watch it, I had zero liking for any of the characters and just wanted them to all die. I found the Inhuman Royal Family more sympathetic than the Punisher or any of his supporting cast.
My later discovery that the show went full NRA-TV with this portrayal of people who believe in gun regulation hasn’t exactly helped my opinion of the show.
I just don’t find there to be an interesting story for me in an angry white man going around committing acts of terrorism because he was for a moment made to suffer like others are regularly.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThe Punisher is...mixed when it comes to the messages. On the one hand, there's some great commentary on PTSD and the treatment of veterans returning home from war, plus criticism of illicit actions during wartime in that the plot is partially centered around a conspiracy to cover up a shady government operation in the Middle East. On the other hand, the gun control "debate" was a sham of an argument and was the closest I've gotten to outright hating Karen Page because it turns her into a mouthpiece for gun rights activists while turning any argument for gun control into a strawman. It's not as right wing as I was worried it would be but it's not perfect.
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I do not see a good reason for skipping Kamala’s origin, since she’s a new hero and has nowhere as many retellings as Batman or Spider-Man.