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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#86301: May 8th 2018 at 12:40:30 PM

I don't have any problem with the humor of Strange falling over when the door opens. My problems with the comedy in Doctor Strange are the forced attempts at humor in Kamar-Taj (Mordo and the wi-fi password, Strange's multiple quips at Wong) and Strange's cape acting up in the Sanctum Sanctorum.

In general my problem is more that Stephen Strange works better with a very dry and casual comedy rather than quipping. Hell, he's this way in Ragnarok and Infinity War, which makes him downright odd in his own film.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86302: May 8th 2018 at 12:42:30 PM

True...I don't think that it is too much of a spoiler to say that Infinity War nailed him and that I want this Doctor Strange permanently. He should be sarcastic, not quippy (I haaaate the Beyonce joke, btw....love that nobody takes his name serious, though).

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#86303: May 8th 2018 at 12:44:55 PM

I feel like in his own movie Marvel was trying to copy what made their other films work rather than embrace the character they were adapting (the same mistake DC made with Green Lantern years ago, though not quite so catastrophic), and now that it didn’t work out quite as well as they hoped they’re course correcting.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#86304: May 8th 2018 at 12:48:51 PM

That's probably the justification the studio has for all of that unnecessary humor, trying to "make them relatable." But it comes at a cost of harming audience respect for the character. Strange's "wailing child" moment isn't even from his perspective, but from Mordo and the Ancient One. We don't actually see him reaching the absolute lowest level of despair, the scene of him telling off Christine and left alone against the window does a much better job of that. You can mix humor and character growth, but you need to stick with the character.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#86305: May 8th 2018 at 12:49:31 PM

They simply had a terrible writing team for his own movie....depending on in which direction they go next they might simply put Marcus and Mc Feely on the next one, if they aren't busy with another project. Or at least give them the script to look over.

Also, I noticed that they have now a "magic coordinator" (or something like this), so I guess they will have a unit which really has a sense for how to put together magical fights in the future.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#86306: May 8th 2018 at 1:05:37 PM

The single worst MCU joke is the one right after Nebula's backstory speech in Go TG 2 (havent seen Ragnarok yet) which undermines a part of the movie that was already not that great.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#86307: May 8th 2018 at 1:30:57 PM

The single worst joke in the MCU is either the rape joke in Age of Ultron or the transphobic joke in Iron Man.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86308: May 8th 2018 at 1:51:29 PM

...

There was a transphobic joke in...

Oh right. When he said he thought that female soldier was a woman.

...ok.

One Strip! One Strip!
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#86309: May 8th 2018 at 1:53:11 PM

Yeah, Tony makes a really gross transphobic joke towards Rhodey in the first Iron Man that relies on the "trap" stereotype, something about Rhodey sleeping with a trans woman during a spring break. I get it, it was in 2008, but upon rewatch that just really hurt to watch.

edited 8th May '18 1:53:34 PM by AdricDePsycho

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86310: May 8th 2018 at 1:57:07 PM

Oh. That.

Ok, that was probably a bad idea.

One Strip! One Strip!
shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#86312: May 8th 2018 at 9:30:03 PM

& Knuckles

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#86313: May 8th 2018 at 9:39:20 PM

Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#86314: May 8th 2018 at 9:47:37 PM
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#86315: May 8th 2018 at 11:13:38 PM

[up][up]I wonder how well he and Star Lord would get along.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#86317: May 9th 2018 at 12:39:36 PM

i blame Hydra

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#86318: May 9th 2018 at 12:48:06 PM

Goddamnit Stane.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#86319: May 9th 2018 at 12:53:09 PM

Annette Bening has joined the cast of Captain Marvel. Variety is saying she'll be playing Carol's mom.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#86320: May 9th 2018 at 1:18:55 PM

I wonder if they'll go into Carol's, difficult relationship, with her father in this film?

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#86321: May 9th 2018 at 1:48:48 PM

[up]I'll be surprised if they didn't. Between Tony, Thor, Loki, Quill, Gamora and Nebula, the MCU loves it's daddy issues.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#86323: May 9th 2018 at 1:50:40 PM

And Darren Cross has honorary dad issues.

edited 9th May '18 1:50:57 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#86324: May 9th 2018 at 2:13:35 PM

Peter has father figure issues.

edited 9th May '18 2:13:44 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#86325: May 9th 2018 at 2:15:13 PM

Let's not forget T'Challa.

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