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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Ironically part of AOU's flaws is that it's not long enough
THANKS JOSS WHEDON
Forever liveblogging the AvengersOh yeah, I saw Thor: Ragnarok recently. I really like the action, comedy, drama, message, and the Planet Hulk parts, but it feels inconsistent.
I wouldn't say the humor undercuts the drama, but the movie definitely undercuts itself. It's trying to be too many things at once, which makes those things not land as hard as they would if the movie had a clearer identity. I think the script definitely could've used one or two rewrites to streamline it better. Overall, it's really good, but it holds itself back from being great by trying to do too much.
I'm standing by that I'd sooner watch Justice League than Age of Ultron and frankly I really don't think it says a lot about the MCU that their worst films are "serviceable". A lot of films can be considered serviceable, they're still not good, and I'd hardly consider Age of Ultron or The Incredible Hulk or even Iron Man 3 as falling under "good".
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?I would. TIH is basically a dumb but serviceable action movie, and Age of Ultron, while easily the weakest Avengers movie, isn't really terrible. If they'd cut most of the extraneous subplots and did a better job with Ultron's writing, it would've been a solid sequel.
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But the movie didnt, so it is terrible.
And yeah, servicable dosent mean good, at best it just past the checkbook to make it OK and that it.
"I'm standing by that I'd sooner watch Justice League than Age of Ultron "
For me Ao U is the Bv S of marvel: to many thing at ones, kinda nonsensical villian and too much of the author to enjoy.
At least Sydner is not a shitback like Wheedon.
edited 5th May '18 4:59:01 PM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Eh. There are a lot of good movies that don't follow the three act structure, so that doesn't really mean anything to me.
Nope.
Unless in extremely serious cases (like Polanski or Mel Gibson), the director's personal life doesn't really influence how I view their work. So again, that means nothing to me.
edited 5th May '18 4:59:22 PM by comicwriter
It's interesting to read Whedon's remarks on writing Age of Ultron and see how Infinity War is a huge opposite from it.
Infinity War has lots of Call-Back jokes (mostly in the sense of "this thing from past movies sounds really weird out of context"), cuts nearly all the subplots to one central theme, and ends in a massive cliffhanger spanning across the entire universe.
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Alright but Age of Ultron isn't a good movie and just saying "nope" isn't even a proper defense.
And uh, Whedon's personal life blatantly taints his work given his abuse of his former feminist credentials to cheat on his ex-wife. Makes all of the supposed feminism of his earlier works look fake.
edited 5th May '18 5:00:41 PM by AdricDePsycho
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?For me Ultron fails to be entrain because it just fall into the whole "force comedy" a lot of people complain about marvel.
In fact, Ao U pretty much contain the whole set of issues that have plague Marvel from start: the humor underminding serious scenes, too much snappy remarks, too much focus on the heroes being awsome at the expense of the story.etc.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"There's plenty of good reason to break the three act structure, but when one does so they need to replace it with something better.
Age of Ultron's big break is moving the Darkest Hour from the end of the 2nd Act, to the start of it. It works briefly in making the heroes feel more emotionally challenged than they ever have before, but then results in there being no increase in darkness or stakes in the transition to the 3rd act. The discovery of the Ultron body in the Cradle, Widow's kidnapping, the Maximoff's defecting, they don't succeed in making anything feel darker than it already was. So the stakes mellow out rather than increase.
Keep in mind, Avengers 1 did a great job with its Darkest Hour, it being Coulson's death and Loki's escape.
Age of Ultron is barely entertaining and it bangs in shitty joke after shitty joke over and over again to obnoxious levels, plus the screwing up of the three act structure ruins the flow. Saying "other films do it too" doesn't even prove anything. What other films do it? Are they actually good at it? That doesn't even mean Age of Ultron did a good job of it when it's one of the biggest flaws in the film.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?

Hot take: I'd sooner watch Justice League than Age of Ultron.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?