TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Marvel Cinematic Universe

Go To

Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#85876: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:50:10 AM

if Disney didn't show it to critics first it would have a negative effect,the opinions of critics are what get people to watch the movies after all

And yes Forbes have ensured Disney won't ever contact them again,they're probably black listed

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#85877: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:54:50 AM

[up]That Forbes article wasn't written by an employee, just an unpaid contributor who had not actually seen the movie and used a Reddit post as a source.

It was dumb as hell, obviously, but let's not make a mountain out of a molehill here.

This song needs more love.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#85878: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:55:40 AM

Usually yes, but in this case...nah, you either want to watch the movie or you don't. There is no in-between.

[up] And that makes it okay how? Someone still allowed this thing to get posted.

edited 28th Apr '18 11:56:17 AM by Swanpride

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#85879: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:57:52 AM

unpaid contributer or not,it was on their platform,so it falls on them

Granted I never read the forbes article but I read about the spoilers later

edited 28th Apr '18 11:58:18 AM by Ultimatum

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#85880: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:58:56 AM

[up][up]Didn't say it was I'm just saying there's nothing to blacklist. Forbes needs to clean up its own mess.

This song needs more love.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#85881: Apr 28th 2018 at 1:13:50 PM

SLJ's jawline has filled out quite a lot but wow. Almost the same.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#85882: Apr 28th 2018 at 1:25:12 PM

took me a moment to realise you meant Samuel L. Jackson,

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
JRads47 Since: Nov, 2014
#85883: Apr 28th 2018 at 1:54:43 PM

How the hell is he nearing 70?

And he should've had a Jheri curl, not that I'm complaining tongue

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#85884: Apr 28th 2018 at 2:18:14 PM

SLJ ages in reverse, I think. I always joke that he looked older in Coming to America - one of his first roles, decades ago - than he has for a long time.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#85885: Apr 28th 2018 at 2:58:51 PM

Just finished Spider-Man Homecoming. It was good, but I think it tried to do too many things and as a result didn't quite follow through on any of them. Would have benefit from more focus on fewer plot threads.

I didn't much care for the general thing with Peter trying to use Spider-Man to win cool points. I mean, he's super insistent about not even telling Aunt May about his Spider-Manning, but he's going to swoop into a party as Spidey just because Flash is a dick? It's easy to rely on the "he's a teenager, teenagers make stupid decisions" rationale, but I've always found that unfair to teenagers. It's just not a satisfying answer to me.

I also thought they spent more time than necessary on the suit thing. It didn't really add anything to the story except give Spidey more toys to play with, and it would have been more satisfying if Peter had come up with those himself. (Okay, drones and the like are probably not something he can build, but the different web settings he can totally manage.)

I would have liked to see more of snarky Spidey and less of awkward Spidey. That's like basically his whole deal. Peter Parker is socially awkward and lacks confidence, but Spider-Man is witty and self-assured. Homecoming has some of that, but spends too much time on Peter trying out poses and stuff instead of actually being clever and confident.

I don't think they quite nailed the relationship between Peter, Tony, and Happy. They couldn't quite decide if Tony was annoyed at having to babysit, or looked at it as a chance to be a good father-figure (unlike his own dad). Peter gave them detailed reports, repeatedly asked for more responsibility, and they completely ignored him. They told him to stick with the little stuff and call them for the big stuff, but when he does call them, they blow him off. It's incredibly unfair to Peter and they never actually acknowledged that. The bit at the end with Tony offering Peter a spot in the Avengers and Peter turning it down also didn't flow very well. Why exactly did he turn it down? He didn't seem to believe he was in over his head, given how he managed to deal with Vulture on his own. He wasn't disillusioned with Tony and hadn't stopped hero-worshipping the Avengers. He hadn't decided that he needed a better normal life/superheroics balance and was going to focus more on school and socializing. The only hint they give is that he repeats part of Vulture's monologue about "the little guy", but it didn't really make a whole lot of sense in context. It mostly felt like the writers just wanted to keep him off the Avengers, either to keep the Avengers from getting even more crowded, or in order to make another Spider-Man movie still doing normal Spider-Man things in NYC.

Still, those are largely nitpicks, not major issues. The action was good, the villain was interesting and showed a new side of the MCU setting, which I liked a lot. It was a more low-key sort of story, a nice change from the world- or galactic-scale threats in most of the rest of the MCU recently. I liked that MJ was sort of a misfit herself in this version of Spider-Man, instead of the unattainable cool popular hot chick (and yes, I'm aware that she's not actually Mary-Jane Watson, but seriously, the "call me MJ" thing on the end cannot possibly be anything but an intentional nod). I enjoyed the parts where Spidey screws up and faceplants into a roof or something — it was a good shorthand for showing that he's still inexperienced, and they didn't overdo it by having it happen every time or do something cheesy like having him repeatedly screw up the same stunt and then have him do it successfully in the climax.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#85886: Apr 28th 2018 at 6:24:40 PM

Other than Thanos, were there other villains that went after the Infinity Stones in the comics?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#85887: Apr 28th 2018 at 6:31:35 PM

Magus did I believe.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#85888: Apr 28th 2018 at 6:41:37 PM

Galactus did it once, but only because he thought they would satisfy his hunger.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#85889: Apr 28th 2018 at 6:46:17 PM

Double posting because apparently no one has anything to say about Spider-Man: Homecoming!

Thor: Ragnarok was the Thor we should have gotten from the start. It's about aliens who are also gods, who live in space but dress up like vikings. Instead of trying to take itself seriously, it just revels in the absurdity and lets the camp run wild. And it's glorious. The weird 80s-ish-ness was unexpected, but somehow worked? It's like they just kept the GOTG aesthetic, but it's Thor now. I can dig it.

The only thing that really sort of annoyed me was Hela wearing a skintight bondage suit and a weird spike-helmet thing instead of, you know, a reasonable suit of armor. The Valkyrie armor also had some Breast Plate shenanigans going on. I actually liked her outfit before that better.

What else is there to say? It was dumb, but it was fun. Good times.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#85890: Apr 28th 2018 at 6:56:21 PM

It's the exact same outfit as she had in the comics. She's a powerful goddess with high level regenerative abilities so she probably doesn't need traditional armor. Also it looks really hot on Cate Blanchett.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#85891: Apr 28th 2018 at 7:15:07 PM

@ Sigilbreaker 26 and Ikedatakeshi

Would any of the two be fitting for appearances in Infinity War Part 2/Avengers 4, now that Disney bought out the film division of the company that owns the film rights to the franchises they respectively fall under?

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#85892: Apr 28th 2018 at 7:24:27 PM

Well, Magus is basically Adam Warlock's evil side, and Adam himself wouldn't appear until GOTG 3, which is set for 2020, after Avengers 4(2019), plus Magus gaining the gauntlet happens after the original Infinity Gauntlet event. Also, that event was the one named Infinity War. As for Galactus, I don't know.

edited 28th Apr '18 7:25:54 PM by Ikedatakeshi

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85893: Apr 28th 2018 at 8:46:12 PM

The Elders collected the stones to power a Galactus killing ray because they were angry he was older than they were

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#85894: Apr 28th 2018 at 8:54:44 PM

What was the comic where Doctor Strange reveals there's actually six more gems, that fit on a right handed gauntlet, and on of the gems is the rythem gem, and two of them are Dance gems?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#85896: Apr 28th 2018 at 9:27:48 PM

And with all of the gems, the wielder shall rule Equestria.

This song needs more love.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#85897: Apr 28th 2018 at 9:28:31 PM

HOW WILL THEY WEAR IT

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#85898: Apr 28th 2018 at 10:12:07 PM

[up] MAGIC!

By the way, I've seen Infinity War technically yesterday and...

...well, if you've been following the spoiler thread, I think you'll see how it worked out for me.

Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#85899: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:02:19 PM

Been watching "Marvel Week" on Jimmy Kimmel Live! and Kimmel's usual sign-off phrase, "Apologies to Matt Damon, we ran out of time for him", has a new added layer of humor to it, given that Matt Damon actually was in one of the Marvel films recently (a cameo in Thor: Ragnorak).

Like creepy stories? Check out my book!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85900: Apr 28th 2018 at 11:51:04 PM

Just back from watching Infinity War. This movie is fucking amazing.

(disclaimer: the below joke is not even close to a real spoiler, it is fake and for humorous purposes)

I can't believe Thanos was a Skrull the whole time! You'd think the chin would've made it obvious...


Total posts: 186,763
Top