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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.

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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85751: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:50:55 PM

How do you pop into a thread by accident? Are you routinely going to "New Posts" and just clicking on whatever, or do you have the thread followed for some reason? I've always been interested in how other people use the forums on this site. I basically just stay on the Thread Watchlist page and refresh it on a regular basis, going to my followed threads to respond to whatever's happening sometimes or just read it.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#85752: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:55:34 PM

By going to the forum menu and accidentally clicking the wrong link, while failing to realize that I did so until after the page actually loads. The MCU and Infinity War Spoiler thread are both so busy that they have been directly adjacent to each other for the past day or so.

edited 26th Apr '18 9:56:55 PM by KnownUnknown

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#85753: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:57:43 PM

[up]Sometimes it happen, I have click in the wrong thread waaaaay too many times before in On Topic conversation and once I said something in the wrong thread.

It just happen.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#85754: Apr 26th 2018 at 9:59:52 PM

I looked for one second the other day, and saw some pretty big spoilers. Luckily, it wasn't too much, and it was nothing I wasn't expecting already.

Oh God! Natural light!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85755: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:03:22 PM

"Forum Menu"? You mean the New Posts page, or the medium-specific New Posts pages? I hardly ever use those. I just click the Watch star at the bottom of every thread I want to be involved in and use my Thread Watchlist as my "Forum Menu", so to speak.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#85756: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:04:24 PM

I use my thread watchlist pretty regularly but I also manually visit the forum sections frequently because just staying in your watchlist doesn't let you know about any new threads that pop up.

edited 26th Apr '18 10:08:24 PM by Draghinazzo

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85757: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:05:50 PM

That's fair. I do visit the New Posts page occasionally, but just to see if there are any new media that I'd be interested in.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#85758: Apr 26th 2018 at 10:26:54 PM

I just want to say I like Dr. strange and Black Panther myself.

In fact, I've state multiple times that the only Marvel movie I flat out hate is Iron Man 3. Everything else, I've liked.

One Strip! One Strip!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#85759: Apr 26th 2018 at 11:49:40 PM

I may have been spoiled on a major character death of some sort because I forgot to unwatch the Infinity War YMMV page. I didn't look too closely so my mind is half blank as to what the context is, I just saw a certain name pop up and now I'm really nervous. Especially since I won't be able to see the movie for another week.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#85760: Apr 26th 2018 at 11:52:35 PM

Guys can we please not talk about anything to do with spoilers in here? No matter how vague, I wanna go into this as clean as I possibly can.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#85761: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:01:46 AM

Can we also agree to keep any Infinity War talk, period, out of this thread until at least a week after it comes out? In consideration of those that can't make it opening weekend.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#85762: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:13:46 AM

I agree with rob about im3. In fact im pretty sure its the only movie you could take right out of canon and nothing would change.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#85763: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:15:54 AM

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Seconding this.

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You can easily take The Incredible Hulk out and miss nothing as well. Maybe Iron Man 2 as well.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#85764: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:20:15 AM

[up]The only thing that matter in Iron man 2 is warmachine canon wise, and Iron man 3 actually make things confusing since Iron man "retires" in that movie and it seen he finally got better only to slip back into classic tony stark behivor.

Really contrasting Iron man 3 with Civil war is just depressing.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#85765: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:21:34 AM

On the other hand, Iron Man 3 is also where he gets a whole lot of stuff off his chest.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#85766: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:26:23 AM

Iron Man 3 had the best Rhodey in my opinion.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#85767: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:34:50 AM

Yeah, Iron Man three is great for character development, but the rest of the MCU never decided to give any continuity to it's plot points.

Like, no one mentions ever again that the white House was involved in a terrorist conspiracy. And Ao U outright ignores Tony's retirement.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#85768: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:36:32 AM

Incredible hulk is still canon they mention it in other movies plus abomination is still alive. And im ontroduced war machine and black widow.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#85769: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:37:58 AM

Yeah, For me Iron man 3 is the height of Tony as chararter, finally answering the Questin Cap did to him in the first avenger movie snd showing he is way more that just is suit.

Meanwhile Ao U Tony is just to much of a dick while CW Tony is kick around too much for my taste to care.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#85770: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:41:25 AM

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Abomination has not been brought up in any other movies since and they only ever mentioned the events once in The Avengers.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#85771: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:46:13 AM

They mentioned him in Agents of Shield.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#85772: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:50:48 AM

Whoop de doo, one of those things the movies pretends doesn't exist.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#85773: Apr 27th 2018 at 12:52:58 AM

It's been interesting rewatching the MCU (minus a few films I missed out on) and seeing how my opinion has changed (or not) regarding various films.

I think the ones that shocked me the most in this regard are Thor 1 and The Incredible Hulk, because they were the biggest re-evaluations.

I used to dislike Thor 1 and felt it was a frustrating film that suffered for the Earth scenes and Thor not being an interesting enough character, but looking back at it now, especially after Ragnarok, I don't find the things that put me off to be so bad anymore. I don't think it's among the strongest MCU films by any stretch, but it's alright.

The Incredible Hulk I was totally indifferent towards and now actively dislike, because it's completely mediocre and devoid of anything remotely interesting or worthwhile. It's literally one of the worst, driest scripts I've seen in a while, not helped in the least by its workmanlike direction. The fight scenes aren't even that great either.

I think every other film I watched I walked out of with more or less the same impression, just with a better understanding of why certain things worked, some more flaws or positive aspects I'd previously not fully appreciated, that sort of thing.

It's funny because there was a time (specifically after I watched IM 3) where I just gave up on the MCU altogether; the only films I had really truly enjoyed up until that point were IM 1 and to a lesser degree TFA. I had a similarly critical attitude for a long time even after Winter Soldier won me back, and there are certainly a lot of valid criticisms to be made about the franchise overall like poor diversity record (if we're being generous; it's gotten a little better with BP, certainly, but that's just a first step), but looking back on things with my current perspective I do have to give Marvel a bit more credit since I think there are things to appreciate at least a little in most of their films. The only ones I really dislike or find particularly frustrating are IM 3, TIH, and Ultron. I've heard Doctor Strange and Dark World are pretty lacking, but I haven't seen them.

edited 27th Apr '18 12:54:31 AM by Draghinazzo

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#85774: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:35:27 AM

Back when they were supplementing the films with the Marvel One Shots, there was one entirely about Abomination. That's about all the plot of Incredible Hulk ever got, though.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#85775: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:39:24 AM

I don't think that Marvel studios has ever done a truly bad movie but for one, they really improved over the years (which is a good thing) and there are a few which would have been bad if there weren't enough good stuff in it to balance out the best. The Incredible Hulk is the only movie I would call generic and forgettable, though.


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