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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Props to the Runaways on that for more than one!
(Assuming Gertrude is meant to be Latina—her actress is but it's entirely possible for her to be playing a Ambiguously Jewish Caucasian Girl)
Doubly so if Victor joins the group.
edited 24th Apr '18 11:06:12 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.The TV side is part of the MCU but good luck getting the movies to acknowledge them. As it stands, they're fairly separated and the movies seriously need to pick up the slack. The TV division is doing better than I expected, I'll admit, but the movies need to pick up the slack hard.
Also seriously we need better Asian representation here. Out of the entire MCU, we have, off the top of my head, Colleen Wing, Daisy Johnson, Melinda May, Nico Minoru and her family, the one Nisei member of the Howling Commandos (forgot his name), Ned, Davos, Wong, and all of that shit with the Hand (of which only Madame Gao is probably the closest to being anything decent and she's still kind of iffy). Notice how three of these are from the movies, and the Howling Commandos are mostly in the background anyways. Also I would've counted Karnak from Inhumans but fuck Inhumans.
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Dude, one of them is Daisy Johnson. Quake. She has superpowers. Actually, two of them have superpowers. And there was a third one but he died in a heroic sacrifice.
In the show, Gert is still supposed to be Jewish, I think? Her parents are Caucasian and white as fuck. I'm talking Phish fan levels of white.
edited 24th Apr '18 11:11:17 PM by AdricDePsycho
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Once the merger goes through next year they'll also have access to characters like Jubilee, Sunfire and Psylocke (who could easily be depicted as a British-Asian woman instead of a white woman who switches bodies with a Japanese woman).
Huh...never noticed it but between them and people like Karma, Armor, Lady Deathstrike, Surge and Silver Samurai, it does seem like a good chunk of the semi-prominent Asian characters at Marvel belong to the X-Men franchise. Even the Big Hero 6 started off as an X-Men spin-off (but nobody remembers that).
If we're talking Latin characters, the most recent Nova is Mexican-American, so he could be in the movie Feige said they're discussing.
edited 24th Apr '18 11:18:08 PM by comicwriter
Oh hell, the X-men used to be all of the popular non-white heroes.
It's POSSIBLE this contributed to its popularity.
(Internet's white dudes: NO! IT CANNOT BE!)
Circa mid-90s, Marvel was basically just Spiderman and the X-men in terms of what sold. The Avengers were more or less relics.
edited 24th Apr '18 11:17:36 PM by CharlesPhipps
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.![]()
Most definitely. Storm, Bishop and Jubilee (and debatably Psylocke) are the most visible ones, but there's also Dani Moonstar, Karma, Sunspot, and a lot more. It helps when your minority allegory has actual minorities (something the previous movies never quite grasped).
edited 24th Apr '18 11:19:49 PM by comicwriter
I know this was posted a while ago but...how the hell seems Bucky unredeemable in The Winter Soldier? I mean, alone for the scene when he sits in the chair and says "I know him" and then gets electrocuted, glaring while he accepts the mouth piece but being resigned to his fate - it breaks my heart every single time. The question in The Winter Soldier is not if there should be a rescue attempt for Bucky, the question is if Steve would be able to break through the conditioning.
Bucky was incredibly sympathetic in TWS if anything. It's made pretty clear that what he does as Winter Soldier isn't actually his fault, that he's suffered terribly over the years, and we even get that Cap flashback reminding you that he's fundamentally a good guy. Also he freaking saves Cap's life at the end as well.
Really the idea is clearly supposed to be that Bucky is almost as much of a victim as the people that he's killed while under HYDRA's brainwashing.
Yeah, which is why I always hate it when people put The Winter Soldier into the villain category. He isn't a villain, he is the tool of the villain.
Another thing: Steve didn't know for sure that Bucky killed Howard, but based on what Zola said, he suspected it. He knew that Howard was killed, but he didn't want to know if Bucky did it. After all, Howard was his friend, too.
I personally always make a point to clarify that I leave Winter Soldier off of villains lists because I do not consider him to even be a villain. He's a mind-controlled drone essentially. He's no more a villain than Hawkeye was when under mind control in The Avengers (that is to say, not at all).
As for the CW thing, I interpret it as Cap DID know deep down. But he didn't want to admit it to himself because it was too painful for him. And that that's a big part of why he apologizes to Tony at the end.
And you know what, I don't have an issue with that. I don't think that it suddenly makes Cap into a bad person overall, not even close. It just makes him feel more human and he doesn't automatically make the right choice 100% of the time, and that a good way to take him as a character imo.
edited 25th Apr '18 2:48:43 AM by Punisher286
Yeah, this is exactly how I interpret that, too. Cap did know deep down, which is why he never looked into Howard's death, because he didn't want to know for sure. And yes, it makes him more human that for once he didn't do the right thing and talked to tony, but kept the secret telling himself that he would protect Tony by doing it, while actually protecting himself.
Which is why I didn't like Winter Soldier's handling of it, but though Civil War did a good job. In Civil War he fights it. Instead of accepting it (reluctantly or not) as he did in Winter Soldier, he breaks out and tries to stop Zemo from reading the activation code. In Winter Soldier, all that's left of Bucky is vague memories in a sense of confusion, and then even that gets erased, which makes it seem like trying to save him is a lost cause. In Civil War, it's clear that Bucky's isn't gone, he's just controlled by the conditioning, which is something else entirely.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asj0Hk-tbks
Great analysis of the infinity stones (no spoilers for Infinity war)
We've seen him be pretty brutal in the first Iron Man, including throwing a ten ringer to a gang of civilians so that they could kill him.
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"I think Civil War does a really good job of showing Tony under emotional strain for the entire movie. From his opening scene he is at a state of intense emotional stress, which only gets worse throughout the film. The first time he really calms down is when he and Steve are briefly on the same side in Siberia… And then when the video plays… He snaps.

And again most of those people are secret agents or regular people.
So its just Ghost Rider & the kids from Runaways at the moment.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."