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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84401: Apr 10th 2018 at 3:54:25 PM

She's private investigating in California again

She had such a miserable time the first time

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#84402: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:05:49 PM

Myself, I'd have Thor retiring as the King of a new Asgard (he even has the missing eye to complete the Odin transition) and Black Widow becoming the "Nick Fury" of the New Avengers.

Stark? Dead. Rogers? Dead. Fury? Dead. Hawkeye? Dead. Banner? Dead. Hill? Dead. When it comes to everyone else who isn't these two out of the OG Avengers team my opinion is:

I missed the debate on Galactus beforehand, but I've thought the Marvel Ultimate Alliance envisioning of the character has always been perfect for a live action film.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#84403: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:16:31 PM

I wonder how Wakanda would handle Asgardians settling in,

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84404: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:28:01 PM

Would anyone be legit sad if they killed Hawkeye off?

Yes. This guy right here.

I'm sick of people shitting on Hawkeye, and I'd only allow him to die when it made no one happy, that way all the people who keep saying he should die would regret it and eat their words.

...no, I'm not bitter. What makes you think that?

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#84405: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:30:55 PM

Can we get like one hero who both has a family and lives? Have him live, retire, and pass the mantle on to Kate Bishop.

edited 10th Apr '18 4:32:20 PM by LordVatek

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#84406: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:32:12 PM

I mean to be honest, fuck Jeremy Renner.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#84407: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:34:28 PM

What did he do?

Nothing on his wiki page jumps out to be certain.

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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#84408: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:35:51 PM

[up]x6 Even the headgear?

edited 10th Apr '18 4:36:38 PM by Pseudopartition

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#84409: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:37:14 PM

[up][up]Had said some insensitive things, regarding comic Hawkeye’s deafness or Black Widow’s “being a slut”. (Chris Evans made the same bad joke but he actually gave a good apology afterward.)

edited 10th Apr '18 4:37:57 PM by Tuckerscreator

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84410: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:37:38 PM

I like Hawkeye too, Rob

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#84411: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:37:46 PM

Yeah, Renner called Black Widow a whore. So total slutshamer right there.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84412: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:42:17 PM

I wouldn't want Hawkeye to die because honestly we just went through that in Ultron, and the fact that it turned out to be a gotcha doens't really change the fact that his entire arc in that movie was made up of death flags.

Instead of the setting up the least prominent Avenger to die again, I'd rather the writers find something new to do with the character.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#84413: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:43:22 PM

They should drop a farm house on him

he lived as he died

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#84414: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:44:32 PM

I did not know The Wizard of Oz took place in the MCU.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84415: Apr 10th 2018 at 4:45:07 PM

I liked him being surrogate dad to Wanda

Be funny if he kept dadding and somehow Peters end up hanging around asking for shaving tips

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#84416: Apr 10th 2018 at 6:31:09 PM

I'd like to see him loose his hearing and then just carry on this cycle of not committing to retirements so we can see the character eventually turn into old man Hawkeye.

Did old man hawkeye have only one arm, or am I thinking of old man Oliver queen?

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#84417: Apr 10th 2018 at 6:32:42 PM

I do believe you're thinking of Queen.

Let Hawkeye and Drax meet and see who is the Daddest of them all.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#84418: Apr 10th 2018 at 6:56:31 PM

I'm surprised that they rated Cap as a 100-1 bet on dying. They say it themselves, that Cap appearing in flashbacks, or in the afterlife (thanks sole stone) or in an elseworlds seems highly plausible for Avengers 4 given we know nothing about it.

Also, declaring Hawkeye as canon fodder kind of goes against the reports suggesting that Clint is getting some kind of retool in this film.

I totally agree with them that the films are yet to give Vision and Scarlet Witch the focus required to justify their existence, but I always figured that was the job of the new Avengers film we'll get after this approaching blood bath. (I kind of feel like spending so little time with the post Ao U Avengers roster has been a real disservice to the intent of introducing this couple)

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#84419: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:01:38 PM

[up] Agree. Solution? West Coast Avengers.

Granted Vision and Scarlet Witch weren’t members of said line up, considering the MCU I don’t think people would bother to care like for the founding member of the Avengers.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#84420: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:09:58 PM

I think Wanda and Vision were in the West Coast Avengers at some point

Also I think Old Man Hawkeye was almost completely blind. Didn't stop him from arrowing good

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#84421: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:16:57 PM

I recall Wanda made appearance in West Coast Avengers as a member and villain, but I don’t think Vision have served as a member of WOA as he mostly appeared on the main team.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#84422: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:24:59 PM

Again, I want to see Doctor Strange talk to Tony, if anything to see who have the biggest ego in MCU.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#84423: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:35:22 PM

I believe that would be Peter Quill's biological father.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84424: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:35:48 PM

It's true. That was definitely the biggest Ego I've ever seen.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#84425: Apr 10th 2018 at 8:37:17 PM

You sure? He looked like he'd lost some weight there. Must've gone on that Galaxkins diet.

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