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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#84351: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:25:46 PM

[up][up]Is iconic but also Narmy as hell, I have yet to see a way to make him not silly.

Also, while Thanos is just the first thread, he have been foreshowing to death, I mean we have been waiting TWENTY DAMN MOVIES to find him, any villian after him will be tough thing to sell.

edited 8th Apr '18 4:26:19 PM by unknowing

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#84352: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:26:20 PM

OBJECTION!

the eater of planet's costume is not narmy

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#84353: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:26:45 PM

Who cares if its narmy?

They'll modernize the design anyway.

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#84354: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:27:27 PM

Why in the fuck are Galactus and Parallax evil cloud monsters? Shit, I didn't realize the Cloud of Darkness inspired two crappy films.

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#84355: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:28:25 PM

The first Fantastic four movie was far from crappy,it was decent effort,the others though,Bleh

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#84356: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:29:16 PM

[up][up]Also Smallville have the same idea of transforming Darkside into a living planet.

I guess because transforming something so powerfull into a human size villian come as narmy and downsizing the threat of said villian.

And to be fair, they are not wrong about it.

edited 8th Apr '18 4:30:04 PM by unknowing

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#84357: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:30:14 PM

No there wrong about it.

Definitely wrong about it.

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#84358: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:30:42 PM

I mean Pooky looked more menacing in his film version but was a pansy ass character and threat.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#84359: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:32:34 PM

I Mean, I can guess Thanos because he is conqueror and genocider but Galatus feel more like a force of nature so reducing him as another humanoie with a silly costume feel just....silly.

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#84360: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:33:40 PM

We've been okay with some guy flying around in colored tights with no visible means of propulsion and being superstrong disproportionate to size for 85 years.

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#84361: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:35:03 PM

Just change his color to a darker shade of pink. Worked for Thanos. :V

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#84362: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:38:46 PM

Guess people really like the first Star Trek movie

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#84363: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:44:39 PM

It should be mentioned that in comics canon, Galactus looks different to every species who observes him. The purple helmeted version is just how humans perceive him.

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#84365: Apr 8th 2018 at 4:51:13 PM

Or make him look like Dormammu. Dormammu, I've come to bargain.

edited 8th Apr '18 4:51:45 PM by Mizerous

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#84366: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:07:42 PM

Ok, I also have one question here....

Who ego is going to be bigger, Strange or Stark? I mean both acted a high funtional sociopath in the past....

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#84367: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:12:38 PM

The problen with people and Galactus is they keep assuming audiences will not accept a giant 300 ft tall man in a helmet that devours worlds.

I disagree.

I think the people who come to see the Fantastic Four or Avenger vs. Galactus come to see a giant man in a helmet.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#84368: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:15:41 PM

care about a gigant guy with a helmet to devour world, we already have one guy in a helmet with Thanos, it would come as repetitive.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#84369: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:16:49 PM

Thanos isn't even wearing a helmet anymore.

Besides both helmets are very distinct.

By that logic audiences wouldn't care for Black Panther cause he's wearing a mask like Iron Man despite neither looking alike.

edited 8th Apr '18 5:17:12 PM by slimcoder

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#84370: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:20:19 PM

[up]Both suit are waaaaaaay diferent and you know it.

I mean I dont mind a guy with a suit but Galatus have been always play as weird primordial force rathern than just a guy with a suit.

It feel one of those thing that have to be adapted like it is because is in the comic, god damit it!.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#84371: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:21:30 PM

[up] Both Thanos & Galactus are very different.

Literally the only similarity they have is that they use purple in their color scheme, that's it.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#84372: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:36:20 PM

Galactus is a difficult character for a movie (especially nowadays, where they're more rigidly giving heroes a "certain kind of thing they fight" that's consistent throughout any of their movies and eschew most everything else) because, by definition, for those he's a threat to he's the ultimate Outside-Context Problem. He has no connection to anything on Earth, no real way to set up, his herald just shows up and a day later he appears to kill everything. A lot of Jack Kirby's more huge, godlike threats suffer from this, and under a lesser writer many of them just devolve into Generic Doomsday Villains rather than make an earnest attempt to circumvent that and instead introduce their complexity.

So I'd really want him to be introduced through a heavily cosmic series, where he and his very interesting role in the universe would be far more able to shine, than an Earth-based one. Then again, I really want Fantastic Four to have a "cosmic explorers" themed movie series (a la Star Trek or Lost in Space - not the movie) anyway.

edited 8th Apr '18 5:37:12 PM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#84373: Apr 8th 2018 at 5:58:19 PM

I wouldn't call Age of Ultron anti-technology. After all the solution for getting a grip on a dangerous out of control robot is to create another, more powerful being. And the solution to rescue the people trapped in Sokovia is a giant Helicarrier.

It is more that it is pro human influence. Tony wants a shield around the world, but the actual SHIELD proofs to be more effective in an actual emergency, despite the obvious flaws in Shield itself. Tony strives for perfection and feels that he will find it in machinery. Steve always believes in humans. The solution is like always a balance between both point of views. Steve needs Tony's technology, but Tony can really use some of Steve's trust in humanity.

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#84374: Apr 8th 2018 at 6:05:57 PM

Okay, is somebody shitting on Galactus's design?

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#84375: Apr 8th 2018 at 6:15:04 PM

[up]The director of the mid-2000’s Fantastic Four movies did. He demanded it be made a cloud.


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