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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Is it the rip-off model train battle?
edited 19th Mar '18 7:53:40 PM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"Ehhh, the first two Thor movies seemed like a much more straightforward attempt at drama. Whether or not it worked...well, opinions vary. But even if you think the only good parts were comedy, I wouldn't classify them as comedy, considering that it's a much smaller part in those movies than in Ragnarok.
they're gonna find intelligent life up there on the moon/and the canterbury tales will shoot up to the top of the best-seller listI am very, very, very attached to Thor. I will defend Branagh’s camp and Dutch angles from here to the moon. The casting was perfect, the sets were perfect, and contrary to popular opinion I freaking love Jane Foster and Darcy.
also 2011 me had a serious crush on Hiddleston and Hemsworth. They’re both so very, very pretty.
edited 19th Mar '18 7:55:41 PM by wisewillow
I like Ant-Man but I think that - like Iron Man 3 actually - it abandoned the decent theme it had going for the sake of rerailing into a more generic, standard superhero plot towards the end. Marvel Studios copped out and went safe at the finish line, and thus ended up with something blander than it could have been.
Well, mostly in regards to Cross as Yellowjacket: in the end, the movie inexplicably skives off to have Cross go after Scott's daughter (instead of the people he actually has a gripe with) so the two can have a big/small superhero battle, while the previous main plot of the heist is mopped up by the supporting characters. The different kind of genre spin the movie spent a long time building up stops being a thing, for something more traditional.
It's not a heist movie either, but the part I'm thinking of is: imo the end of the plot with Cross should've been like the end of the plot with Zorg in The Fifth Element: he discovers he's lost everything, while the whole situation falls apart without him. Instead of making it a standard guy in suit vs guy in suit fistfight, if they wanted a hyper climax Marvel should've made the heist more insane and content heavy instead, emphasizing the kind of traits the movie had set up for Scott and his actions already.
Iron Man 3 has it even worse (though not as bad as, say, Hancock). Killian abruptly becomes a standard "lusting after the hero's girlfriend" villain, kidnaps her so Tony can be a bad enough dude to rescue her, and the whole conspiracy theming of the movies goes away so the end can be. This leaves a lot of things undeveloped: Killian, AIM in general, Extremis in general, etc, and is one of the primary reasons - imo - Killian ends up being so flat. He starts out being written as a minion, and ends being written as a something textbook.
edited 19th Mar '18 8:22:24 PM by KnownUnknown
I kinda agree. These films have too big an obsession with the big action finale.
(Ouch, but mentioning Hancock is like picking at an open scab, I've never seen such a plummet in quality between two halves of a single movie.)
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"I'm still kind of miffed they used AIM in such a way.
Where are the evil bee-keeper suits? Where's the Scientist Supreme? Where's the meddling in forces far, far beyond their ken?
Where is the god damn Mental Organization Designed Only for Killing?!?
Oh God! Natural light!Sorry, I'm still caught up thinking about timelines.
I just made this chart
I'm exhausted now. (Also I've fudged Doctor Strange because I insist on it taking place over the duration of Phase 2, and I'm not entirely sure that Guardians Vol 2 takes place after or before Age of Ultron so I guessed)
edited 19th Mar '18 8:35:29 PM by Whowho
EDIT: Oh what i got Go G 2 wrong to? Gonna fix that then.
EDIT: Double fixed it
On reflection it would have made more sense to make a timeline rather than a crazy conspiracy theory wall.
My insomnia is pretty bad at the moment, can you tell?
Next I might make a diagram illustrating the timeline retcon.
edited 19th Mar '18 9:04:21 PM by Whowho
The timeline is currently a little bit in flux because none of the movies which have been released last year are anywhere close to their actual release date. Ignoring the mess with Spider-Man Home-coming and just going by where they are placed in relation to civil war, Gotg Vol 2 happened before Civil war (between Gotg and Age of Ultron to be precise), Homecoming more or less directly after it, Black Panther too (I think it might even overlap with Spider-Man Homecoming), likewise Ant-man and the wasp seems to fit somewhere into the ballpark and Ragnarök is the only one which happens after Doctor Strange and might actually be set in 2017. Even Agents of Shield is currently completely confusing with its time-travel shenanigans, but it should be set in 2017 too, instead of being set roughly in real time like it is usually the case.
Thanos: Now that I have all of the Infinity Stones, my first decree shall be that Spider-Man Homecoming takes place later than everyone thought.
Death: ...What?
Thanos: THANOS HAS SPOKEN!
edited 20th Mar '18 5:58:14 AM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.

I dunno if "hated" is the right word but I do kinda like Ant-Man more than some people, even though I recognize that it's a bit basic, has awkward comedic moments, and the whole deal with sidelining Hope is stupid. I also kinda like it though, I don't really know why.
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