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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#82826: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:20:44 PM

Did you hate it before watching it?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#82827: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:21:08 PM

Why did you hate it before you'd seen it?

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#82828: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:22:41 PM

Because everything I'd seen about it seemed terrible and it oversaturated tumblr and made me dislike it even more. I watched it 'cause my mom wanted to watch it and got it from Redbox.

Like I said, it was okay. Most of the jokes didn't work. But it's very pretty and when the actors decide it's time to put on their grownup pants, those are the scenes I enjoy the most.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#82829: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:23:57 PM

.............

I don't get it.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#82830: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:24:55 PM

That's all a matter of subjectivity but it's not something I'd particularly see as being that big of a reason to loathe a movie I haven't seen yet.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#82832: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:35:45 PM

Thank you, DA. It was actually pretty fun once they got off Sakaar. There's actually not a whole lot that I'd change.

Except maybe spend not as much time on Sakaar and take out all of the audience fake-outs. After three, the next fifty-six aren't funny anymore.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#82833: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:39:42 PM

[up]Kinda, I think botplotlines should be more conected, otherwise I feel im looking two movies barely mash by their protagonist.

And that is not good at all.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#82834: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:44:04 PM

Could have easily been done. Just have Skaar populated by more refugees from the Nine Realms. Have the characters Thor interacts with in the second act be the peoples displaced by Hela and Odin's original colonialism.

That way Korg's revolution ties in directly with Thor's conflict with Hela.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#82835: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:47:13 PM

I would have liked that. Would make the overall conflict with Hela have a lot more weight, as well as the revelations about Asgard.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#82836: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:52:49 PM

There's already some subtext to suggest it. Valkyrie is there for pretty much that reason, and Thor says that he recognises Korg as being a member of people native to the nine realms, and the grandmaster explicitly taking adventage of "unwanted" people. If you squint you can almost infer it.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#82837: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:02:09 PM

If this movie want to talk about imperalism, the grandmaster should be the apointed dictator o colonial master, one who make life hell to people far away to please some entity who secure is position, making some sort of a leech in a way.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#82838: Mar 16th 2018 at 8:57:46 PM

Given that they moved fast to have a replacement for Wise, chances are she was a runner-up for the role and that it's a relatively big one. Monica Rambeau is looking more and more likely.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#82839: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:01:19 PM

Guess the difficulty is finding an actress who can portray a character in the nineties and then the same character twenty five years later for the sequel.

Wait, Monica ages right? I know Carol doesn't, but Monica is just a human with a super power.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#82840: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:03:40 PM

Ddddddepends?

In Mighty Avengers it was revealed she doesn't even need to breathe anymore. Her body is energy imitating normal body functions.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#82841: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:06:48 PM

For all we know, she could probably get similar powers here like Carol and both of them could be in Avengers 4.

Seriously, if Monica is in Captain Marvel, she better stick around.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#82842: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:15:43 PM

If Monica gets her powers in the nineties I wanna see what she's been up to for twenty five years and absolutely have her in Avengers 4, Heck put her in Infinity War given the chance.

It is weird thinking about all the heroes missing from the infinity War trailers. Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Wasp, Valkyrie, Hemdeil and Captain Marvel were all originally said to be in the movie. I imagine the rejigging of the release shedual caused the possibility for people to be cut, and just editing of such a packed film as well might cut people or reduce them to very small roles.

Hay, has Monica ever turned into gamma radiation and merged with the Hull like she merged with Carol that one time in Ultimates?

edited 16th Mar '18 9:21:12 PM by Whowho

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#82843: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:31:59 PM

I am pretty weirded out by the absence of Hawkeye from the trailers.

I also really hope that Valkyrie and Heimdall don't get bridges dropped on them.

[up] She did it with She-Hulk in Mighty Avengers, enhancing her strength by a lot (though also causing her to go into a more standard Hulk-mode, explaining why they don't do that more often).

edited 16th Mar '18 9:33:32 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#82844: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:51:55 PM

@sigilbreaker exactly how should Tony have reacted to Miriam Sharpe blaming him for her son's death? Laugh at her and shrug it off? What would a rational response look like to you?

And what exactly was Tony supposed to do to Ross? Punch the guy out and ignore his orders? He can hardly just pretend the man isn't Secretary of Defense and had been appointed liaison to the Avengers. It's obvious Tony doesn't like or trust the man.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#82845: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:52:55 PM

He's actually fairly insubordinate to him. Its great if you dislike Ross which I do.

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ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#82846: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:52:57 PM

wild mass guessThe reason they haven't said anything about the Soul Stone is because they don't have to. It had always been there the entire time. Cap IS the Soul Stonewild mass guess

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#82847: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:54:20 PM

[up]x4 That sounds AWESOME. Will have to see if I can find a scan of that.

Yeah I hope those two Revengers spend their time hurrying away The Asgard refugees safe from Thanos, rather than dying. Ideally they'd be taking part in the fight but I guess there's not room. It's cool, they can go build a floating city in Norway safe offscreen with Lady Sif.

edited 16th Mar '18 9:54:53 PM by Whowho

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#82848: Mar 16th 2018 at 9:59:54 PM

If Valkyrie and/or Heimdall die, we riot.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#82849: Mar 16th 2018 at 10:01:46 PM

[up][up] Word of warning - the art's by Greg Land, so...quality will vary.

Oh God! Natural light!
Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#82850: Mar 16th 2018 at 10:08:37 PM

Valkyrie at least not getting to be part of the action, or dying, would both be really lame. Especially after becoming the breakout character of Ragnarok arguably.


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