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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#82601: Mar 16th 2018 at 1:37:37 AM

[up] Well, Vision killed Ultron and everyone helped by taking out his bodies, so yes, they do.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#82602: Mar 16th 2018 at 1:42:51 AM

I already listed Vision as killing Ultron, I more meant the Big Three of the Avengers, Iron Man, Cap, and Thor. Though all of them killing Ultron's drones is I guess a borderline example, since they're all technically him.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#82603: Mar 16th 2018 at 2:01:35 AM

Didn't thor kill Malekith? (to be honest, I can't quite remember how Malekith died, but if it wasn't by Thor's hand, it wasn't for the lack of trying).

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#82604: Mar 16th 2018 at 2:03:32 AM

I don't remember much of The Dark World, aside from Frigga's funeral being beautiful.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#82605: Mar 16th 2018 at 2:05:34 AM

[up][up]

Yeah, I said that might have counted. I can't really remember.

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#82606: Mar 16th 2018 at 5:19:58 AM

To say that Thor doesn't have a bodycount is laughable.

Also add Sloth to Loki. In addition to lazing around in a bathrobe when he impersonated Odin, he had no desire to changed his ways and self improve until Thor called him out on it.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#82607: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:15:33 AM

NEW TRAILER GUYS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwievZ1Tx-8

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#82608: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:27:05 AM

Through the magic of embedding:

(After seeing trailer)

...holy crap. surprised

edited 16th Mar '18 6:36:04 AM by TargetmasterJoe

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#82609: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:32:51 AM

Seeing all these characters interact with each other is so fuckin' surreal, and I love the shit out of it.

Also, Tony combining his legs into a larger booster, cool shit blowing up, Dr. Strange getting impaled by a hundred different spears at once, and STEVE VS THANOS' LEFT ARM, LET'S GO!

Cross (Don’t ask)
#82610: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:35:51 AM

Peter isn't making a good first impression.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#82611: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:42:10 AM

Are you kidding?!

“Oh, we’re using our made up names? Then I’m Spider-Man.”

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#82612: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:44:46 AM

This movie is like those romance flicks where they just get a shit-ton of celebrities to appear and the movie is just one big extended cameo for everyone they could get for the movie, except all of these actors are playing characters that have already been set up in previous films and it's a big crazy action film with what must be a record-smashing budget instead of a cheesy stand-alone romance film with no special effects.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#82613: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:44:57 AM

So much hype.

I’m still hoping for a scene where the spaceships are over New York. Cut to Jessica Jones seeing one, at which point she IMMEDIATELY downs a bottle of whiskey and goes “Nope.”

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#82614: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:45:57 AM

[up][up]...way to be a buzzkill dude.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82615: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:49:40 AM

Did I come off as a buzzkill? Sorry, I meant for that whole thing to come off as HYPE, PURE UNADULTERATED HYPE.

HYPE for the sheer NUMBER of characters in this film!

edited 16th Mar '18 6:50:52 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#82616: Mar 16th 2018 at 6:50:42 AM

[up] Gotcha, misinterpreted the tone.

WOOOOOOOO HYPE!!!!!!

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82617: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:14:10 AM

I like that Thanos appears to just be trying to grab Steve to casually move him aside, but Steven fuckin' grabs Thanos' index and pinky finger and pushes with all his strength like his life depends on it. Meanwhile, Thanos is just mildly caught off-guard at the surprising strength this one Human has, as his hand is held back with all the strength in Steve's comparatively tiny body.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#82618: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:16:27 AM

[up]I dont know, that moment was a little bit narmy for me, it looks like a paren try to grab a childevil grin.

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#82619: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:25:56 AM

He's got loads of minion corpses behind him, though.

I was actually surprised when he apparently switched to using non-lethal rounds against HYDRA in Age Of Ultron.

Technological advancement can explain that. Killing people is significantly easier than subduing them. There are so many ways to kill a person, and much fewer options to safely, reliably incapacitate.

As arms technology goes, first you build a device to put a sharpened stick through a person's skull from 30 feet away. Then you start coming up with ways to, like, pad the stick or make it spray gas or something.

The physics behind less-lethal weapons are much more complex, because you have to figure out how to strike a safe middle ground between it being too weak to be effective and strong enough to be too effective. Whereas if you're building killing implements, there's no such thing as "too deadly".

That said, the shoulder-guns he uses in Age of Ultron do seem to be the same ones from Iron Man 1, so it might just be that he's retargeted them. Maybe he and Bruce were talking one day and Bruce was like, "You know, have you considered shooting people in the knees instead of the face? You can still die from that, but it's a lot less guaranteed."

edited 16th Mar '18 7:29:02 AM by TobiasDrake

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#82620: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:39:16 AM

I used to work for Hydra. But then I took a missile to the knee.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#82622: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:42:48 AM

I hope it's at least 3 hours long. This is an event in film, and it deserves the runtime of a proper epic.

[up] He's barely holding Thanos' hand, let the man have some small victories.

edited 16th Mar '18 7:43:44 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#82623: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:56:41 AM

[up]What does he need small victories for? He's already beaten Iron Man.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#82624: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:57:20 AM

Power levels are bullshit

But anyway I'm fucking hype

@romance movie comment: so this is like Thanos, Actually

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#82625: Mar 16th 2018 at 7:58:42 AM

Or ValenTony's Day of Reckoning


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