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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Yep. Asgard supposedly keeps the peace among the Nine Realms. There's an implication with Hela's reveal that this is basically defined as Asgard being like, "Hey guys, we run this joint now. Here are the rules we laid down. Please adjust your culture accordingly. Also, you owe us taxes now. Hey, have you seen how cool our culture is? You're not invited to participate, but y'know, you can look. In case you want to see what real culture is like."
Which really puts Loki's attempt at straight-up genociding a Realm in a new and exciting light, doesn't it? Maybe Thor really is the adopted kid after all.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I think the protection thing isn't quite as malevolent as you're making it out to be. Between Surtur, the Kree, the Frost Giants, and the Dark Elves it seems like the Nine Realms have their fair share of violent would be conquerors. Odin seems to have kept most of them in check for thousands of years. It's even stated that Earth would have been wiped out long ago if the Asgardians hadn't been watching over it.
edited 13th Mar '18 1:06:00 PM by Kostya
I keep telling all of you that Tony Stark is the true enemy of the Earth.
The rest of the Avengers are slowly realizing what Wanda learned when she read his mind.
Thanos is obviously there to stop him before he reaches the rest of the universe.
One Strip! One Strip!This feels like "The Trial of Batman" from BTAS.
Of these, only Ultron, Zemo and Killian are really Tony's fault, since he built the former against everyone's advice and the latter two are a result of his reckless and/or asshole attitude.
Stane and Hammer stole his tech to be evil. He didn't exactly give it to them.
How are Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver his fault?
Don't know about Vulture, haven't seen Homecoming yet.
edited 13th Mar '18 4:05:05 PM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"...See, I was gonna say Stane isn't really Tony's fault, but then again, everything is Tony's fault, so never mind.
Glad you all agree with me. Fortunately, Thanos and the other Avengers will do the smart thing and team up to take out the greater threat.
Then they can fight each other, as is logical.
One Strip! One Strip!"Collateral damage-wise, Tony probably wins out as well. A city in the sky isn't cheap to replace real estate wise. "
Is clear that Civil war REALLY try to not mention the whole fact about Sokovia to make Zemo the villian, otherwise we will cheer him out as he separate the avenger away(even when to be fair, they did that themselves).
Also, while tony is clearly the most recurring antagonist on marvel, he didnt kill someone mother....right bucky?.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I'd "blame" Tony for Wanda and Pietro, Toomes, and Zemo. Kind of would split the blame for Zemo between Tony and Steve. Because while Tony gets primary blame for Sarkovia, I get the feeling that discovering the stuff about Bucky was not just something Zemo used against the Avengers, but also something he considered an illustration of their lack of accountability. And everything Bucky related can be "blamed" on Steve.
In all seriousness, blaming Tony for Toomes is kinda extreme. The worst he did there was gobble up a job that could have gone to blue-collar crews like Toomes', and considering he was contracted to do so it's more the fault of the US government trusting him with alien metals more than they trust a bunch of scrappers.
That doesn't make him culpable for Toomes becoming a bird.
edited 13th Mar '18 4:42:37 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I'd argue that Tony is at least complicit in Iron Monger, given that Stane managed to do it all under Tony's nose for nearly two decades.
Edit: I agree that the only person responsible for Toomes is Toomes. The guy's FIRST THOUGHT on loosing A SINGLE CONTRACT was "build deadly weapons out of alien tech and go into arms dealing" guy likes to think he's being some kind of rebel but he's just a crook with a weak excuse.
edited 13th Mar '18 4:44:44 PM by Whowho
Yeah, Tony is at most connected to Toome's by virtue of the government taking a job away from the latter and giving it to the former. Toomes becoming a thief, arms dealer, and murderer are entirely on himself.
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edited 13th Mar '18 4:48:12 PM by TheAirman
PSN ID: FateSeraph | Switch friendcode: SW-0145-8835-0610 Congratulations! She/TheyStane has a two decade advantage on him, though.
Like. I feel like expecting a 17-year-old Tony to have the business savvy to immediately identify that Stane's secretly dealing under the table. Stane was at the company before Tony was. He was the boss in the interim between Howard's death and Tony's return. That stuff was probably going on before Tony even knew what a W-4 was.
That's the whole reason Stane hates Tony: Stark Industries is basically his baby so far as he's concerned. He's the Steve Ditko to Howard's Stan Lee, and then Howard dies, Stane takes over, everything's great, and then here comes prodigy child Stark Jr. to steal the reins back from him and take all the credit for his hard work.
Blaming Tony for Stane is like blaming an apprentice swordsmith for never noticing that the master smith uses the forge to hide his serial murders whenever the kid's not looking.
edited 13th Mar '18 4:50:19 PM by TobiasDrake
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I seem to recall that Odin is leader of the Nine Realms, which are under Asgard’s “protection.”
edited 13th Mar '18 12:00:23 PM by wisewillow