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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#81801: Mar 8th 2018 at 9:38:36 AM

I think they did that on The Punisher too.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#81802: Mar 8th 2018 at 9:39:59 AM

Is it just me, or is T'Challa's pose on that poster kind of... Wolverine-y?

@The stills: So it looks like fans are finally getting what they wanted and have both modern versions of Sherlock Holmes working together. In a more in-universe sense, it looks like they're doing a "Scientist Supremes meet Sorceror Supremes" plot, with Banner and Tony teaming up with Strange and Wong.

Also, is that Banner meeting Shuri in the stills? If the posters are foreshadowing as to the kind of meetings that will be taking place (they probably aren't, but...) I can't said to see Shuri geek out over Vision.

edited 8th Mar '18 9:42:47 AM by KnownUnknown

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#81803: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:26:43 AM

Behind the scenes of Infinity War[1]

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#81804: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:37:17 AM

Ah. So instead of the theory going around that the Soul Stone would somehow be in Wakanda, Thanos is attacking because the Vision is taking refuge there. That makes much more sense.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#81805: Mar 8th 2018 at 10:59:39 AM

I'm sure the Wakandans are very happy about that. On top of Vision also being made of stolen vibranium.

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#81806: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:31:19 AM

So, according to the EW, the four most popular covers of the bunch are the ones with Cap, Iron Man, Black Panther and Thanos (?). Shows that fan interest are still high for Iron Man but Thanos is surprisingly popular.

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#81807: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:37:43 AM

“Hey Vision, Thanos is coming so... could you be intangible all the time?”

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#81808: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:40:22 AM

I see nothing surprising about that. Iron Man and Captain America are the two longstanding cornerstones of the MCU. Black Panther is a cultural phenomenon who won audiences over so hard that his movie might actually beat Avengers at the box office. Thanos is the long-anticipated Big Bad of the entire Myth Arc.

These four characters being their highest sellers makes perfect sense to me.

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#81809: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:40:39 AM

More details[1] also, the meme about Bucky and Rocket is canon now.

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#81810: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:42:25 AM

[up][up] But Thanos is more popular than the like of Thor, Spider Man, Hulk and Black Widow? That's new.

edited 8th Mar '18 11:42:39 AM by shatterstar

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#81811: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:44:42 AM

Neither Thor nor Hulk has had the kind of film success that Cap, Stark, and Panther have.

While many of us are pushing for Black Widow to get her own independent film, she hasn't and is still relegated to being a supporting character for her entire film career.

Audiences are sick of Spider-Man.

Thanos is the Big Bad of the entire Myth Arc.

Makes sense to me.

EDIT: To clarify, the response to Civil War was basically, "Holy shit, throwing Iron Man and Captain America against each other was as awesome as you could possibly have imagined it would be!!!" The response to Ragnarok was, "Holy shit, Thor and the Hulk made a good movie. Hell must have frozen over."

edited 8th Mar '18 11:46:31 AM by TobiasDrake

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#81812: Mar 8th 2018 at 11:51:13 AM

So, according to the EW, the four most popular covers of the bunch are the ones with Cap, Iron Man, Black Panther and Thanos (?). Shows that fan interest are still high for Iron Man but Thanos is surprisingly popular.

Cool. Is there a link?

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#81814: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:03:18 PM

Sounds like they are really playing for keeps this time.

Feige is aware the only thing that could kill the franchise is complacency, if they don’t keep evolving and engaging a new generation of moviegoers with a new generation of movies. The real danger is lack of surprise.

New Heroes Rise, Others Will End

Some heroes are just getting started: Chadwick Boseman’s Black Panther, Benedict Cumberbatch’s Doctor Strange, Tom Holland’s Spider-Man, and Brie Larson’s Captain Marvel, who isn’t expected to be in Infinity War, although her first film, due next year and set in the 1990s, is shooting now. Other heroes have had multi-film arcs, with actors who have hinted they’re ready to move on, or at least step back. One of them is Robert Downey Jr., whose charisma in the first chapter, 2008’s Iron Man, was a key building block in this expanding universe.

“Clearly, Kevin is, in addition to everything else, an excellent, almost clairvoyant troubleshooter,” Downey tells EW. “I think the trouble is the endlessness.”

Between Feige and the Russos, Downey says the cast feels their alter egos are in capable hands. “We’re going to pull out the stops, and stop exploring conventions, and look to do stuff where we go, ‘Oh, but if we do that, that’s very, very definitive.’ Well, great, let’s get definitive for a change!” Downey says. “We’re like a family now. Ten years later, we’re hanging out and having lunch, and kind of wondering when the draft is going to come in. Which one of us bites it and when?”

That’s not an exaggeration, according to Infinity War’s screenwriters, Christopher Markus and Stephen Mc Feely, who co-wrote all three Captain America movies. Some heroes may simply get to ride off into the sunset. Others may sacrifice themselves or fall in battle. “It’s safe to say we will say farewell to people,” Mc Feely promises.

So, some things must end. And the idea of clearing away some to make way for others is the plan of the villain — Thanos, a godlike galactic warlord played via performance capture by Josh Brolin. Ever since the first Avengers film featured his smirking purple face as a post-credit surprise, he has been built up throughout this series as the ultimate tyrant.

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#81815: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:10:41 PM

This is tangential, and not that anyone asked, but while I would have welcomed a Black Widow movie once I'm kind of sour on the concept now. I'm not denying that the MCU could use more female representation (especially as headliners), but I'd be much more interested if it was a woman of color instead. On top of that Johansson is kind of a shitty person, as her starring in Git S and her incredibly clueless statements trying to defend it proved.

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#81816: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:16:32 PM

The details on Thanos' backstory are interesting:

“He’s from a planet called Titan that’s no longer inhabited because of things that he thought he could help prevent, and he was not allowed to do that,” Feige says. “What he feared most happened, and the planet and everybody on it basically went extinct. He vowed not to let that happen again. He thinks he sees the universe going down the tubes. He thinks he sees life expanding outward unchecked. That will bring ruin, he believes, to the universe and to that life.”

That is shockingly sympathetic, and a complete 180 from the comics, where Thanos is the one responsible for the genocide on Titan in the first place.

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#81817: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:23:14 PM

I'm hype

Also the article suggests that the material for Cap's shield was taken, not a gift. Which is an interesting change from the comics and also relevant to a joke making the rounds about how appropriate Cap's shield is as a symbol of America being made of something stolen from Africa

[up] It almost foils him to Tony kinda. Tony wouldn't kill half of the world to save the other half but there's a lot of sketchy stuff he would consider doing

edited 8th Mar '18 12:24:51 PM by Bocaj

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#81818: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:44:19 PM

I just watched episode 1 of Jessica Jones season 2.

I cannot believe they adapted the fucking Whizzer. It was funny enough as a cute little in-joke but when he turned out to really have superpowers I almost had to pause the show.

edited 8th Mar '18 12:45:26 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#81819: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:46:28 PM

Could you maybe keep spoilers out of here for a couple of weeks? Not everyone has seen it yet. I've yet to see it today and I doubt I'll be able to finish it today.

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#81820: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:47:04 PM

I used spoilertags though.

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#81821: Mar 8th 2018 at 12:48:21 PM

Lots of people keep spoiler tags on. Please keep it in the show's thread?

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#81823: Mar 8th 2018 at 1:02:08 PM

I kind of do. Not anything major, mind but haven't we usually kept spoilers for newly released movies and TV shows to their respective threads for a bit?

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#81824: Mar 8th 2018 at 1:02:52 PM

Considering the disparity between regional movie release dates, occasional leaks or pre-release spoilers, and people seeing the movie early/late, going into this thread at all with spoilers set to off sounds like a really bad idea.

[up]I've only been in this thread since... I wanna say around either Iron Man 3 or Thor 2's release, but I'm pretty sure spoilers for recent movies/shows have always been fair game as long as they're properly spoilertagged and given enough context for people to know "this is a spoiler specifically in regard to ____".

edited 8th Mar '18 1:05:08 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#81825: Mar 8th 2018 at 1:11:52 PM

@Bocaj

I hate you. I almost spit out my drink.


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