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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#81651: Mar 6th 2018 at 8:09:15 AM

I imagine that's literally Luke making a commercial for Heroes For Hire, hence the "get paid!" as well as his whole demeanor.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#81652: Mar 6th 2018 at 8:17:58 AM

Certainly seems like it, yeah.

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ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#81653: Mar 6th 2018 at 9:52:51 AM

Black Panther Box Office Passes ‘Beauty and the Beast’ to Land at #9 on All-Time List[1]

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#81654: Mar 6th 2018 at 12:39:41 PM

Ooh, now he's really gonna be a Hero for Hire.

On the subject of the Heroes for Hire, has anybody ever hired Cage and Rand to do something like rescue a cat from a tree or fix their plumbing?

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#81655: Mar 6th 2018 at 1:00:24 PM

"Hello Heroes for Hire? Would you be able to give me a quote for how much it would cost to capture and return an escaped bear to me, one loose in Harlem, without alerting animal control?"

...

"$800 you say? Sounds reasonable, so I guess that will be $3,200 for all of them then."

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#81656: Mar 6th 2018 at 1:23:40 PM

Why would Danny even need to be a Hero for Hire? He's independently wealthy.

...I've honestly never thought about that until just now.

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#81657: Mar 6th 2018 at 1:34:22 PM

Maybe he donates his earnings to charity.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#81658: Mar 6th 2018 at 2:03:05 PM

In that case why not just do the Heroes for Hire jobs themselves as charity work?

Unless he, like, only takes jobs from wealthy clients who can afford to splurge on a personal hero and then donates that money to charity, but it still feels like there's a lot of unnecessary middlemen in there.

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BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#81659: Mar 6th 2018 at 2:12:02 PM

I'm sure Luke Cage has bills to pay and can't just get money from Danny. But does Danny Rand pay his taxes? :p

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#81660: Mar 6th 2018 at 2:28:33 PM

Well originally, Danny didn't have his company in the comics right?

Not sure why'd he'd do it now, but maybe the charity thing would have something to do with it.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#81661: Mar 6th 2018 at 2:38:58 PM

Luke just wants an honest dollar. Ask Doctor Doom...

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#81662: Mar 6th 2018 at 2:45:13 PM

Danny doesn't tend to have access to his company for long. Even once he gains control of it its such a corrupt organisation he's got plenty of people undermining him, in the end he declares it a loss cause and liquifies it.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#81663: Mar 6th 2018 at 2:59:33 PM

Disney is campaigning to get Black Panther an Oscar nomination[1] [2]

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#81664: Mar 6th 2018 at 3:13:07 PM

Black Panther deserves a costume nom, at the absolute bare minimum.

I’d say score, visual/set design are also almost mandatory.

In my wildest dreams, they’d get a Best Picture nom, plus Best Supporting for Michael B Jordan and Danai Gurira.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#81665: Mar 6th 2018 at 3:13:37 PM

It definitely deserves nominations for costuming and production design, but I don't consider it to be Best Picture level.

Still, I don't consider most things that get Best Picture nomunations to be Best Picture level. It certainly wouldn't be the worst film to get nominated.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#81666: Mar 6th 2018 at 4:45:07 PM

I’d get it Costumes and Score. It deserves those at least for the visuals and audio.

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#81667: Mar 6th 2018 at 5:20:19 PM

I mean Wonder Woman had an Oscar campaign and got nada, so I don’t know if it’s probable (at least in the bigger categories).

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#81669: Mar 7th 2018 at 1:02:15 AM

Wonder Woman wasn't that good.

It was competent but BP blows it out of the water.

BP's s little overrated once you escape the novelty but it's still a pretty good movie and one of Marvel's top 5 movies.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#81670: Mar 7th 2018 at 1:08:58 AM

[up][up]I love that Odin is GRRM.[lol]

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#81671: Mar 7th 2018 at 1:12:27 AM

[up][up] Pretty much. For me personally BP is far, far away from being the best MCU movie. But there is actually little to criticise about it, it's mostly just a little bit too predictable in places and the pacing is a little bit off. But the story works and the themes are strong. Wonder Woman on the other hand pretty much imploded in the third act. I would have been over the moon if it had been on one level with BP.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#81672: Mar 7th 2018 at 4:34:29 AM

BP is easily among the best MCU movies, hands-down the most original MCU movie, and is only slightly better than WW in that it fails its beginning instead of its ending. It's not spotless but it is several degrees of magnitude more entertaining than the rehashed formula we got for the better of 10 years before that.

The lack of Academy Awards wouldn't be shocking - while very good, neither BP nor WW are on par with the last AAA movie that swept technical oscars, Mad Max Fury Road. For BP, it probably also comes from the fact that it has very few practical effects and was almost entirely made in a green room.

Ultimately it will also boil down to the opposition it is facing. You have the various AAA movies that can either tank of be surprisingly great - among them Ready Player One, and no matter the overall quality Spielberg tends to make visually adequate movies - and you also have the bunch of "Festival de Cannes" movies with lower budgets or fame but who can make up for it by having insane photography or visual originality - movies like No Country for Old Men.

edited 7th Mar '18 4:43:10 AM by Julep

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#81673: Mar 7th 2018 at 4:38:10 AM

Disagreed with the Edgar Wright thing, enjoyed the rest of the video

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#81674: Mar 7th 2018 at 4:42:48 AM

The Edgar Wright thing is REALLY annoying me at this point. We don't know if he had delivered a good movie or not. Marvel waited years for him to make this movie, while he keep delaying the movie for other projects and then he went and left in the last minute. And on top of this, nearly everything which is popular about Ant-man is stuff Reed, Rudd or the writing staff added. Meanwhile Wright would have killed off the Wasp for good and had no interest whatsoever in Hope. I mean, there have been cases in which I heard what was originally planned for a movie and thought "yeah, this sounds way more interesting that what they ended up doing and it would have fixed X problem I have with the movie". But Ant-man isn't one of those, if anything it sounds like the movie would have been much worse.

So, yeah, I am GLAD that he didn't make the movie in the end. Not every crazy movie maker is necessarily a good pick for a project.

edited 7th Mar '18 4:44:28 AM by Swanpride

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#81675: Mar 7th 2018 at 4:47:26 AM

5:30 AM thought: I had an idea for a really cool scene in a potential Fantastic 4 movie. Reed Richards stops a meteor by stretching himself in a gigantic (like, town-sized) spring.


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