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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#81176: Feb 26th 2018 at 1:46:17 PM

Gemma Chan joins Captain Marvel as Minn-Erva[1]

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#81177: Feb 26th 2018 at 2:11:11 PM

[up]Carol's Evil Counterpart. Because there always has to be one in these movies.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#81178: Feb 26th 2018 at 2:20:54 PM

I'm not sure if they were planning on it already, but Black Panther and Wonder Woman's success has theater owners asking for more diverse blockbusters now, so that's essentially just more of a push for them to introduce Kamala at some point.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#81179: Feb 26th 2018 at 3:19:46 PM

EDIT: Didn't realize the casting announcement had already been posted.

Anyways, given that we know that Carol Danvers's origin story is going to be changing somewhat, and that her powers initially came from being infused with Kree DNA, and Minerva is a Kree geneticist, I feel very comfortable speculating that she's going to be connected with Carol Danvers getting her powers.

edited 26th Feb '18 3:20:59 PM by Falrinn

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#81180: Feb 26th 2018 at 3:42:42 PM

[up] Ugh, please don't have a love triangle in the first female led movie of the MCU.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#81181: Feb 26th 2018 at 5:12:31 PM

Also given that Carol hasn't even been mentioned or referenced AT ALL in the MCU (20 or so years after her movie will be set), it'd be weird to suddenly try and retcon her as being this big hero that everyone remembers/idolizes.

It doesn't have to be everyone, as long as Kamala is her biggest fan. She could be the Miguel to Carol's Ernesto De La Cruz: while everyone is gushing over Iron Man or Thor, she's the one going "I've heard/read about Captain Marvel, and she was amazing!" and being inspired by the icon of days past.

To go to an extreme, even, they could have Kamala be Tim Drake-esque and be unique to the extent of having all sorts of research on Captain Marvel that most people don't.

edited 26th Feb '18 5:30:11 PM by KnownUnknown

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#81182: Feb 26th 2018 at 5:26:05 PM

So to toss my hat in the ring of post-Infinity War speculation, I think the MCU will probably want another over-arching villain for whatever their next Myth Arc will be; since the Avengers is the event franchise, they will probably be an Avengers villain. Loki, Ultron and Thanos will probably be off the table. So: I think their next Big Bad will be Kang the Conqueror. They can even adapt Kang Dynasty from Kurt Busiek's run.

[up] I haven't read Kamala's comics, and it's all contingent on Captain Marvel but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the route they end up going.

edited 26th Feb '18 5:27:23 PM by Aleistar

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#81183: Feb 26th 2018 at 5:51:49 PM

I believe I heard something about them maybe doing more movies set in the past?

If so, and they wanted to do another Myth Arc, Kang would be well suited for that.

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#81184: Feb 26th 2018 at 6:29:29 PM

For anyone who's interested, here's how Black Panther compares to Avengers 1 on a day to day scale.

Right now, BP's sitting at $404 million domestic. At this equivalent point in the first Avengers movie's lifespan, it was at $373 million domestic.

BP might actually dethrone Avengers as the highest-grossing Marvel film of all time.

edited 26th Feb '18 6:30:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#81185: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:25:48 PM

I look forward to “Black Panther and the Avengers”.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#81186: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:27:30 PM

[up] Nothing would make me happier.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#81187: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:28:07 PM

"Quick, put more BP scenes in Infinity War!"

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#81188: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:29:22 PM

"Black Panther's Avengers"

STARRING!

  • T'Challa

  • Okoye

  • Nakia

  • Shuri

  • M'Baku

  • Sam Wilson

  • Col. James Rhodes

  • Luke Cage

  • And the Cinematic Debut of Monica Rambeau

My various fanfics.
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#81189: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:29:35 PM

inb4 Black Panther defeats Thanos.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#81190: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:30:04 PM

I wonder if they'll put in that scene of BP kicking Black Dwarf's ass just like from Infinity.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#81191: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:31:24 PM

BP's probably going to get more attention just like how Cap's third film was basically Avengers 3.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#81192: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:31:38 PM

[up][up]Always wanted to know how he did that when Black Dwarf could fight Ronan, the Super Skrull, Gladiator and Anihilus at the same time.

edited 26th Feb '18 7:32:27 PM by Ikedatakeshi

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#81193: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:36:04 PM

"Black Panther's Avengers"

Funnily enough, because IMDB cast lists for upcoming films are in order of "Starmeter," Letitia Wright is the first billed for Infinity War right now. Followed by Chadwick Boseman, Danai Gurira, Winston Duke, and Tessa Thompson (who's still only listed as 'rumoured').

Oh and Linda Cardellini is listed higher than most of the Avengers.

edited 26th Feb '18 7:37:27 PM by Pseudopartition

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#81194: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:37:13 PM

[up][up] Wakandan tech?

I really don't know myself. In retrospect compared to the rest of the invasions BP was the only one to successfully fend off a member of the Black Order.

For example of how well the others did Corvus Glaive skewered Wolverine like it was a barbecue.

[up] Ha. [lol]

edited 26th Feb '18 7:37:32 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#81195: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:40:13 PM

I will say this, one of the things that Black Panther really makes me excited about for the MCU as a whole, more of an out-of-universe thing, is that he represents a headliner that can lead the brand going forward into the post Infinity War era.

I mean, they've had no shortage of successes, but Ant-Man, Dr. Strange or even the Guardians haven't had the large-scale impact and pull that they had with, say, Iron Man, and I've been worried for a while that after Infinity War they'll have filtered off their previous headliners but have left characters that haven't really gotten the audience to really rally behind the universe.

Black Panther's been galvanizing audiences, so going forward he could very well be the personality that can be the new face of Phase 4.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#81197: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:43:56 PM

So T'challa replacing Stark as the head-headliner? I can see it.

I want Tony Stark to stick around if he doesn't die in Infinity War, though. He's fun even when he isn't suited up.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#81199: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:46:07 PM

I would be delighted to have T’Challa as our new Tony. I am here for it.

And also give me all the Shuri and Nakia and Okoye and M’Baku (W’Kabi can stay; he knows what he did).

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#81200: Feb 26th 2018 at 7:46:27 PM

Luckily Marvel got all their brands back so they have a lot of options now.

BP being the face is pretty cool though.

edited 26th Feb '18 7:46:49 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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