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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#81126: Feb 25th 2018 at 2:03:44 AM

Going by the comic continuity, I’m shipping Natasha with Matt.

It could happen. Scarlet Johansen may make guest appearances on Daredevil. I seriously prefer her over Karen and Elektra!

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#81127: Feb 25th 2018 at 2:19:45 AM

I never really felt like Nat needed to be shipped. She a Clint are consummate professionnals, unlike everyone else on the Avengers, so if there are two characters that should be free of all relationship drama, that's them.

That doesn't mean she deserves to end up alone, but that's the thing, she deserves to end with someone - ie settle once she has retired. On active duty, being entangled in romance drama is not like one of the greatest secret agents on the planet.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#81128: Feb 25th 2018 at 2:55:54 AM

[up] Who says anything about settling down? She can have some fun, right? And maybe the fun can become more serious down the line, maybe not. There is no reason for her to life like a nun. I just feel that Age of Ultron was the wrong place for a romantic arc.

Notoyax17 When all you have is a blowtorch... Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
When all you have is a blowtorch...
#81129: Feb 25th 2018 at 3:10:33 AM

In my perfect world, she'd be part of my OT 4 (Steve, Bucky, Sam, Natasha). One can dream, right?

Barring that though, I personally don't really want her to get a romance until her own movie, if it's not with any of her teammates (except Bruce. That ship has sailed far and hard). Even then, I'm reluctant to have it happen at all, since the MCU has always been pretty hit or miss when it comes to romance.

"Yo, those kids are straight up liars, man. All I told them to do was run product. And by product, I mean chewing gum."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#81130: Feb 25th 2018 at 5:05:51 AM

I felt the drones and Ultron program were an in character follow up to Tony destroying his suits and promising to spend more time with Pepper

He's trying to delegate more of the responsibility onto robots and such and his end goal is to set things up so Earth's safety is forever and automated so he can go home

It didn't work because Tony is Tony and Ultron went horribly wrong and him and Pepper are in a rough patch during Civil War but by Homecoming when Tony really has been taking it much easier what with not really having much of a team and Steve's Secret Avengers going out and hitting hot spots him and Pepper really do seem to be getting along a lot better

So it was a journey but I don't think the threads were entirely dropped

edited 25th Feb '18 5:06:40 AM by Bocaj

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Notoyax17 When all you have is a blowtorch... Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
When all you have is a blowtorch...
#81131: Feb 25th 2018 at 5:33:08 AM

[up] I might be remembering wrong, but IIRC Tony only started worrying about delegating things to the robots and stuff after he was mind-fucked by Scarlet Witch. But there's no explanation for the beginning of the movie where he's back to being Iron Man.

"Yo, those kids are straight up liars, man. All I told them to do was run product. And by product, I mean chewing gum."
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#81132: Feb 25th 2018 at 5:42:49 AM

[up] Who says anything about settling down? She can have some fun, right? And maybe the fun can become more serious down the line, maybe not. There is no reason for her to life like a nun. I just feel that Age of Ultron was the wrong place for a romantic arc.

Sure, but she should have some fun outside of her circle of colleagues, like Clint. Considering the stakes of her job, putting it in jeopardy by introducing drama in a team that is already largely dysfunctional does not sound like a smart move. Vision and Scarlet Witch is hardly what I would call a resounding romantic success.

I have nothing against Cap, Tony or T'Challa who are at least dating outside of the superhero community.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#81133: Feb 25th 2018 at 5:46:47 AM

That is incorrect

The drone program existed even before that and Tony wanted to take it further but didn't have the technology

He is back in the suit at the beginning of the movie but Pepper's primary objection wasn't him Iron Manning in general it was him coping with PTSD by constantly building suits and refusing to engage with her

He starts opening up (to Bruce) at the end and the drones are more automated to build and maintain so it's steps in the right direction

It's weird that people complain about Tony seeming to get over his ptsd by the end of Iron Man 3 and also complain that his recovery has bumps and backslides

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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#81134: Feb 25th 2018 at 8:14:44 AM

[up][up] You say this like Nakia isn't a superhero. tongue

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#81135: Feb 25th 2018 at 8:28:55 AM

Black Panther is the 4th film to ever hit $100M+ its 2nd weekend domestically with $108M, $400M total and is currently sitting at $700 million at the box office after only 10 days and it’s not out in Japan or China yet.[1]It took the Avengers 14 days to reach $400 million domestically.

edited 25th Feb '18 8:42:01 AM by ComicFan

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#81136: Feb 25th 2018 at 8:54:45 AM

Could still go higher, as the Sunday gross is basically still a guess; last weekend their Sunday estimate was off by $10 million.

Saurday gross is the second-highest non-opening Saturday (after The Force Awakens).

edited 25th Feb '18 8:56:34 AM by Galadriel

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
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it's a living
#81140: Feb 25th 2018 at 8:44:58 PM

Well, he was a warrior in life. Valhalla's meadhalls await!

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#81141: Feb 25th 2018 at 9:27:36 PM

I am assuming that was filmed without knowledge of Guardians Vol 2's ending.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#81142: Feb 25th 2018 at 9:34:29 PM

Reportedly Michael Rooker was on set that day to film something for the Guardians of the Galaxy ride.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#81143: Feb 25th 2018 at 9:37:41 PM

I mean, it's pretty obviously something not actually intended to be in the movie.

Oh God! Natural light!
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#81144: Feb 25th 2018 at 9:49:32 PM

He mentions Kevin (Feige) and Lou(is D'Esposito) so yeah, it's an Easter egg/outtake rather than a deleted scene.

edited 25th Feb '18 9:49:40 PM by Unsung

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#81145: Feb 25th 2018 at 9:59:28 PM

Like that one X-Men blooper where the guy in the Spider-Man sneaks up behind them during a scene and then goes "Oh man, I'm so sorry! Wrong movie! My bad!"

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#81147: Feb 26th 2018 at 12:09:56 AM

Well, he almost made it.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#81148: Feb 26th 2018 at 12:29:36 AM

If Killmonger was just a bit more thorough in stabbing T'Challa before throwing him off the waterfall I'm sure he could've managed it.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#81149: Feb 26th 2018 at 1:25:53 AM

I have a complaint about Iron Man's depiction here that has always bothered me: the Unibeam has never been used in a meaningful way. In the cartoons and comics, it's sometimes his ultimate attack, but I think it's only been used twice in the MCU, one of those times was to break something while he was partying in the suit in Iron Man 2.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#81150: Feb 26th 2018 at 4:54:02 AM

On the other hand one of those times was to break Bucky's other hand

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