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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#80926: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:01:19 PM

Also, France colonized Mexico ? I honestly did not know that. I knew about parts of the US, and Quebec obviously, but never heard of France messing in Mexico;

Yep for a couple years. They even put down some major roots in Mexico too. Lots of the soldiers settled down in Mexico even after France withdrew.

Most Mexicans that talk about having French roots (like me) are talking about descent from one of Napoleon's soldiers.

Napoleon III is even the one who popularized the term "Latin America" in order to foster kinship between France and Spain's former colonies as if they were a loving uncle that wanted to help us.

Basically, France was Count Olaf to our Baudelaire orphans.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#80927: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:03:12 PM

[up]Are you talking about... thiiiiiis? [1]

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#80928: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:03:30 PM

For all we know the gold could come from unifying Asgard,

Hela is directly talking about the conquests of Asgard when she says that line. The portraits of her and Odin’s wars are right there as she’s speaking. The implication that she and Odin stole it from their conquered peoples is pretty obvious.

(Of note: Ragnarok in the ancient myths is also characterized as a punishment for imperialism. It happens because an army of Jotunn storm Asgard to get revenge for Odin killing an enormous sleeping one and building the universe out of its carcass.)

edited 22nd Feb '18 3:05:02 PM by Tuckerscreator

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#80929: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:04:20 PM

I haven't read A Series of Unfortunate Events so I'm just imagining a talking snowman dressed as Napoleon

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edited 22nd Feb '18 3:05:02 PM by Ultimatum

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#80930: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:05:58 PM

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We are indeed talking about that.

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Napoleon III, mind. The shitty nephew who was a pale imitation of the more famous Napoleon I.

edited 22nd Feb '18 3:06:32 PM by AdricDePsycho

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#80931: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:09:44 PM

Well.....he's just as goofy:

edited 22nd Feb '18 3:10:04 PM by MadSkillz

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#80932: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:26:31 PM

I do feel kinda bad for Maximilian Hapsburg since he actually did want to do a good job in governing Mexico, he tried to make Benito his prime minister, he loved Mexico and was horrified by how the poor were treated in Mexico so much so that he abolished child labor, restricted working hours, cancelled debts above 10 pesos for peasants and held to the liberal policies of Benito's presidency.

Hell even Benito Juarez personally liked Maximilian despite leading the opposition against him and later executing him to send a message to the royal heads of Europe.

As far as 19th century despots go, he was closer to Dom Pedro II the Magnanimous than to Napoleon III.

But I digress.

edited 22nd Feb '18 3:29:42 PM by MadSkillz

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#80933: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:37:41 PM

[up] Really? You know what, this story would make a pretty good movie.....

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#80934: Feb 22nd 2018 at 3:38:51 PM

I'd suggest maybe taking this to another thread but this is seriously fun.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#80935: Feb 22nd 2018 at 6:13:30 PM

[up][up] Last note on this but yeah, I'd watch it.

You even have Maximillian's rumored parentage.

Some people surmise that he was Napoleon II's son(who lived just long enough to have impregnated the mother and he was noted to be extremely close to her like best friends-close so much so that it was rumored that they were in a sexual relationship with each other) not Archduke Karl Franz's son.

And well DNA evidence says that Napoleon III wasn't an actual Bonaparte but Talleyrand's grandson. (Napoleon III's Y haplogroup is completely different to the actual Bonapartes and their other patrilineal descendants which isn't possible if he's patrilineally descended from them).

It really is one of the great ironies of history that Talleyrand(who despised Napoleon and he him) had a grandson that masqueraded as a Bonaparte and followed in Napoleon's footsteps.

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#80937: Feb 22nd 2018 at 6:16:55 PM

[up]I love it.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#80938: Feb 22nd 2018 at 6:17:39 PM

I prefer this picture.

If he fits, he sits.

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#80939: Feb 22nd 2018 at 6:38:14 PM

[up]x3 So does this make Man Ape, Nappa? If so, than its appropriate seeing how he is hilarious and we would quote everything he says.

Or am I thinking of Klaw?

edited 22nd Feb '18 6:39:54 PM by BigK1337

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#80940: Feb 22nd 2018 at 6:55:26 PM

Klaue would be apropos.

Man-Ape is more like Piccolo, but becomes Super Kami Guru whenever he's on his throne.

edited 22nd Feb '18 6:57:17 PM by Anomalocaris20

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#80941: Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:16:27 PM

Considering that Michael B Jordan is an anime and DBZ fan, I have to wonder if he had input on Killmonger's costume.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#80942: Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:20:33 PM

I would not be against Jordan playing Vegeta if another studio ever tried to take a crack at adapting Dragon Ball.

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#80943: Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:37:58 PM

Dragon Ball could work as a live-action franchise, but the problem is that nobody wants to make a live-action Dragon Ball. They want to make a live-action Dragon Ball Z. They don't want to take the time building up audience suspension of disbelief and organically developing the characters and concepts. They just want Goku and Vegeta to throw city-smashing explosions at each other five seconds into the film.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#80945: Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:51:45 PM

...I may have just made an anime-style squeeing noise.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#80946: Feb 22nd 2018 at 7:53:44 PM

Ya know he actually looks like Killmonger when he became BP in the comics.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#80947: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:22:15 PM

I love that M'Baku and T'Challa shared the screen for all of eight minutes and the internet just decided "Yeah, they fuck."

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#80948: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:24:01 PM

It took a whole eight minutes for the internet to decide that? Wow, you're right, that is weird. The internet's usually faster about this sort of thing.

edited 22nd Feb '18 8:24:21 PM by TobiasDrake

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#80949: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:28:45 PM

I mean, a long portion of that shared screentime was spent straddling each other half-naked.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#80950: Feb 22nd 2018 at 8:29:57 PM

I’m pretty sure M’Baku is the launcher of a thousand ships. Unf.


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