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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
On changing Ben’s race, that has always cross my for a revised Fantastic Four series; but said change might not going to matter a lot since he is going to be human for only the first 3 to 5 minutes and be an orange rock monster for the rest. Unless said race change will serve as a double message about being happy for who you are on the outside, then sure have a black actor for The Thing.
Though I think we should might as well make Reed black as well, even if it leads to comparisons to Blue Marvel with said race lift.
That’s why I said have Reed be black as well along with Ben who would be half black half jew just like White Tiger.
Seems to make sense seeing how a lot of recent Fantastic Four stories retcon the two’s relationship to be childhood friends instead of friends of college.
And all of the sudden I think a director from Pixar would be the best choice to do a Fantastic Four movie all because I think Monster University is an accidental origin retelling of how Reed met Ben. Also The Incredibles (and its sequel).
edited 21st Feb '18 6:23:26 PM by BigK1337
When I say the MCU, I'm not counting the TV shows. I'm just counting the films. The films are much bigger than the shows.
I'd be down with a Hispanic Johnny and Sue Storm. Although I'd actually prefer it if Reed Richards was Hispanic. You can even say that his father anglicized his surname from Ricardo when he immigrated to America.
edited 21st Feb '18 8:49:27 PM by MadSkillz
I finally watched Thor Ragnarok.
It was as funny and well-crafted as it was coincidental and inconsequential. It has a real personality, and I didn't get the impression I was watching something I already saw three times already. Like Black Panther, it would work very well as a complete standalone set in its own personal universe. But really, at times, you get the feeling writers let many strange things pass for the sake of a good joke or scene - to the point it went beyond the WSOD on repeated occasion.
Still in the better half of the MCU, and clearly the best Thor.
The last one doesn't seem like a suspension of disbelief thing to me.
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I agree. I thought Ragnarok addressed the consequences of imperialism on both the victims of imperialism and on the persons who inherit the benefits of imperialism.
There’s also that great “sorry, the prisoners with jobs” comment about slavery. That’s... I’m still surprised that made it into the final cut. Because if you’ve seen the documentary 13th...
Lemme put it this way: I'm Latino. Specifically I'm of Mexican descent, my father is a Mexican and I have family there who I visit often. This is my culture. In Mexico's history, who all has imperialized it, again? Spain. France. The United States. Latin America in general has suffered a lot at the hands of imperialism. People here were murdered over goddamn bananas.
It made me happy to see a movie with such a blunt message about imperialism, and it makes me happy that Taika Waititi, a Maori man who likewise is descended from people who suffered at the hands of imperialism, made this. To say it's not as smart about it and to downplay that feels like an insult to me and a disservice to Waititi.
edited 22nd Feb '18 10:27:05 AM by AdricDePsycho
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?I can't bother caring for anything but the characters in Ragnarok, because Asgard is as bland as they come. We don't even know a thing about the "invaded realms" mentioned in Hela and Odin's backstory. So I got it less as criticism of imperialism as just giving a random evil thing to do to the villain, and it just so happens that criticizing that evil thing happens to go against imerialism - it could go against racism, or sexism, or anything else really, with a villain with different motivations. The political message looks more incidental than anything. It is not wrong, but when you get an infinitely better version of that debate three months later in the very same universe, I find it hard to praise Ragnarok. At the very least, it is a good step to get away from the "America Fuck Yeah" attitude the MCU often had beforehand, in The Avengers or Civil War in particular.
Hela is also a bit of a waste. First, her Maleficent crown is unimpressive (and, well, Maleficent - why not give her her own identity?) and she would look much better with just her hair down. But aside from that, why make her Thor's and Loki's sister...and do nothing with it? They meet for a grand total of thirty seconds, and three minutes at the end. They don't interact further than that, and when they do it's because she is dumping some exposition on the viewer. At that rate, she would have been better as an independent villain, as her screen time could either have been used to flesh her out, or to make her entertaining enough to be more memorable (or both, ala Klaue/Killmonger).
As for deflating the tension, I think GOTG 2 was much better than Ragnarok when it came to staying serious. Here, I never really cared for anything, because when tension started to rose, there always was a (hilarious) gag to take my mind off it. Granted, it is better, for me, than Star Wars VIII distracting me with plot twist after plot twist.
Also, France colonized Mexico ? I honestly did not know that. I knew about parts of the US, and Quebec obviously, but never heard of France messing in Mexico;
Edit: okay, one more stupid thing Napoleon III did. And people wonder why I am wary about sequels, considering how our historical sequels went.
Also, my criticism doesn't mean I had a bad time in front of Ragnarok, far from it. The hyperactive not-too-dumb dog is an apt comparison. I think I'd rather watch this one again than Civil War, for example.
edited 22nd Feb '18 10:41:53 AM by Julep

I hope no one finds this offensive, Asian or maybe someone from the Middle East.