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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#80676: Feb 17th 2018 at 8:22:51 AM

Black Panther made $75 million opening day[1]

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#80677: Feb 17th 2018 at 8:30:23 AM

That's very big, on a par with Civil War.

I went on Thursday night and the theatre wasn't even quite full, but I'm in Canada. Likely the movie's bigger in the US.

It was good - certainly one of the best in the MCU - but not amazing. I'd give it 4/5. (In comparison, I'd give Winter Soldier 4.5/5, and it's my favourite in the MCU. Civil War and Avengers would get 4/5, and everything else in the MCU is in the 2 to 3.5 range.)

edited 17th Feb '18 8:34:09 AM by Galadriel

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#80678: Feb 17th 2018 at 9:09:35 AM

Review:

Well, starting off from this year, there's a bunch of new Super Hero films awaiting us for the year, and Black Panther is the first out of many from the Marvel branch. Petty issues regarding Black hero representation and DC fans aside, the film holds a great potential of being a Black Superhero film for a more mainstream audience this time, not to mention that the crew was also done by Blacks. Done right and will be a big leap forward in Minority representation in film franchises. Lo and behold, the film hits all spots of what makes a film great and is another exciting opening for a new Marvel superhero.

Pros: Well-rounded characters, beautiful scenery, compelling villain, well-done action scenes, good representation of African culture, both music and costumes, a good theme of how to be a king and showing up to the outside, and being able to feel like a Marvel film without relying too much on showing other familiar heroes. Cons: Hard to tell, but I feel that the Father-Son theme could have been explored a bit more to show how much legacy will an offspring carry from their father.

Verdict: 9/10

We're up for a good start in Superhero movies this year by now, so let's hope Aquaman, X-Men, and Deadpool hold up as well.

edited 17th Feb '18 9:09:48 AM by Luigisan98

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#80679: Feb 17th 2018 at 9:15:59 AM

The theater was packed when I saw it here in Brazil too.

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#80680: Feb 17th 2018 at 8:20:48 PM

Somehow I missed my chance of seeing it (Black Panther) with my family members . So instead might as well talk about a potentially good idea for a future Marvel movie to do.

Do you guys remember that whole Dark Universe, Universal is attempting? Why not the MCU start introducing some of their horror theme characters in the form of an anthology movie that takes place in the MCU? With the popularity resurgence of the horror genre thanks to IT and the fact of all genres to takle Marvel Studios didn’t attempt at horror, it would be good to see them attempt at one.

The name of the movie will be The Tomb of Dracula, and it will 5 stories in it with the last one basically converging all the plots together. Of the four stories it will include the following characters in said order:

  • Werewolf By Night
  • Man Thing
  • Damien Hellstorm
  • Blade

The last story, which will tie in with the eponymous title, will see four the four characters from each part (Legion of Monsters) come together to fight Dracula after being asked by the newly formed SHIELD which has a monster division.

Part of the reason why I thought this up was mostly because Blade haven’t yet made his re debut in the MCU and I want him to be done differently from the Blade Trilogy of films by not having the movie fully dedicated to him.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#80681: Feb 17th 2018 at 8:27:21 PM

A horror anthology, eh? That would be fun to see.

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BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#80682: Feb 17th 2018 at 8:55:05 PM

[up] I know right? The only challenge will be finding five different directors to film each parts.

Right off the top of my head, for the main movie parts that would introduce the stories and lead to the final one I wanted Guielllmo del Toro for it since it kind of have an action horror tone similar to Hellboy with the whole superbatural division of SHIELD. And for the Blade short film it will be directed by David Slade for obvious reasons.

As for the other three: well we need one director who could do psychological horror (Werewolf By Night), one for found footage/body horror (Man Thing), and one who knows how to do demonic horror (Daimon Hellstorm).

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#80683: Feb 17th 2018 at 9:06:09 PM

Back from seeing Panthera Onca That Is Devoid Of Light.

It was pretty damn good. We got to the theater late and had the shittiest seats in the house, so my neck's a bit stiff, but I really enjoyed the film.

M'baku is my surprise favorite. From all the preliminary stuff I thought he was just going to be a filler villain under Killmonger, but he won my heart with his trollishness and late-game showing. Though both Shuri and Klaue stole the scene every time they appeared too.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#80684: Feb 18th 2018 at 4:11:43 AM

[up] Please, be a little bit more careful what you post here....there are a few who can't watch the movie this weekend for one reason or another and want to stay as unspoiled as possible. There is a Black Panther discussion for geeking out.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#80685: Feb 18th 2018 at 7:12:05 AM

Black Panther is the highest grossing film at 33 AMC Theaters[1] and opening weekend projections jumped to over $223 million[2]

edited 18th Feb '18 7:14:57 AM by ComicFan

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#80686: Feb 18th 2018 at 8:56:01 AM

Black Panther currently sitting at $361 million at the box office [1]and earned $192 million domestically in 3 days[2]. $1 billion looks very possible.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#80687: Feb 18th 2018 at 11:09:30 AM

It's hard to predict what kind of staying power Black Panther will have, though.

On the one hand, the buzz around it is similar to the buzz Wonder Woman got, and that movie had remarkably strong legs.

On the other hand, Black Panther had a lot more hype prior to its release, and that can sometimes mean that everyone goes to see the movie the first week it's out, and not so much in the weeks that follow (hence why Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 had an opening weekend over 50% larger than the first one, but didn't gross too much more in the long run).

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#80688: Feb 18th 2018 at 11:19:04 AM

I think it’s gonna have strong repeat viewings though.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#80689: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:23:15 PM

The 3-day opening weekend gross for Black Panther is $192 million (domestic). That's about the same as Age of Ultron, which had relatively poor staying power (and middling critical and fan reception) and still made $459 million. Black Panther has excellent critical reception; fan reception is hard to gauge because of all the racists trying to skew the review sites, but based on comments here, most people seem to like it.

So I'd say that Black Panther is pretty much guaranteed to make at least $400 million domestic, and could make considerably more than that.

Worldwide gross is always hard to guess, so I'm not making any predictions on that.

edited 18th Feb '18 1:06:28 PM by Galadriel

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#80690: Feb 18th 2018 at 12:43:39 PM

@Swanpride: I didn't spoil anything, don't worry.

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#80691: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:20:19 PM

I never understood Hydra's logo. Like, their organisation is named Hydra and their motto is clearly themed around Hydras, the whole "cut off one head, two more grow in its place" motto. So why is their logo an octopus with a human skull?

edited 18th Feb '18 1:21:45 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#80692: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:21:20 PM

octopuses grow back their arms,or something

At least it's not a squid

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#80693: Feb 18th 2018 at 1:30:03 PM

Agents of Shield kind of retroactively explains that. The organization started as a cult worshiping Hive so the logo is probably based on his appearance.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#80694: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:05:19 PM

[up][up][up] Because it has its hands/arms/whatever in everything. But yeah, it was wondering about that too. Ao S solved the question quite nicely....but then, Brett Dalton would have preferred an entirely different symbol. Just watch him bringing the notion forward here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1yJCg65rYw

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#80695: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:44:31 PM

Because HYDRA is evil. And a human skull with tentacles sprouting out of it is evil.

Ergo evil.

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#80697: Feb 18th 2018 at 2:57:39 PM

at least they have a cool sounding name,unlike say,the Hand

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#80698: Feb 18th 2018 at 3:29:42 PM

My Idea for a Stinger for Infinity War:

Thanos manages to get all the infinity gems, and defeats everyone, and leaves through the portal he made to rule over the multiverse in order to meet with Death, and leaves behind a monster to take care of destroying the planet for him. After he leaves. a Red Blue and Yellow Streak One-Hit Kill's the monster with a single punch, and after it falls, she floats down to the other defeated marvel heroes. She turns to the Camera, and says, "Looks like I'm finally here." or something to that extent. End film.

edited 18th Feb '18 3:30:21 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#80699: Feb 18th 2018 at 5:31:16 PM

I never understood Hydra's logo. Like, their organisation is named Hydra and their motto is clearly themed around Hydras, the whole "cut off one head, two more grow in its place" motto. So why is their logo an octopus with a human skull?

Well, when Hydra first appeared in Strange Tales #135, Hydra's motto about cutting off the heads instead referenced a Hydra's limbs, with Tony Stark even symbolically demonstrating the threat Hydra posed by bringing out a model globe with the Hydra logo's tentacles encircling it*, so I'm guessing Stan Lee thought a "hydra" was some kind of octopus monster when he originally wrote that issue?

Stark then shot said globe, while explaining to Fury that his gun had transistors in it for no fucking reason. Because Silver Age.

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#80700: Feb 18th 2018 at 7:32:39 PM

On the other hand, Black Panther had a lot more hype prior to its release, and that can sometimes mean that everyone goes to see the movie the first week it's out, and not so much in the weeks that follow (hence why Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 had an opening weekend over 50% larger than the first one, but didn't gross too much more in the long run).

5th-highest grossing MCU film, beaten only by the two Avengers films, Iron Man 3, and Civil War in domestic sales.

Spider-Man: Homecoming just barely edges it down to sixth in worldwide totals.

What's this about Guardians 2 not grossing much in the long run?

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