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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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So bothsiderism, Golden Mean Fallacy, and pretending that pointing out racism is somehow as extreme as literal Nazism.
edited 8th Feb '18 1:15:19 PM by AdricDePsycho
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Hey now, at least do us the common courtesy of saying "no, I don't have an argument." It's polite.
I have other...words about your attempt at invoking horseshoe theory based off of the thinnest possible grounds, but that's off-topic for this thread.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."It's certainly Costume Porn, and I am someone who loves Costume Porn.
Here’s a really cool interview
with the costume designer, Ruth E. Carter. She talks about finding various designs and styles from around Africa and from the Afrofuturism movement.
There's definitely shades of Doing It for the Art to the costumes, unmatched by any other MCU franchise except for maybe some of the Thor films (and even then most of the more interesting costumes failed to make it out of the concept phase). I've counted at least four very elaborate costumes for Shuri alone.
On a related note, here’s a really cool interview with Camille Friend, the head of the hair department for Black Panther.
There’s several different styles of hair she used, based on the character and the different tribes. And all the hair styles are natural hair.
Hmm, sorry if I bring old topic up, but I do want to ask if Mighty Whitey would still be a thing if instead of American or British person it would be Scandinavian or Italian? Because seriously, I'm annoyed at generalizing all Europeans and part of America into one category.
Turnabout is fair play— it's about the aftermath of European colonialism, and the conscious choice to make whiteness into an identity. It's not going to be exactly the same for every country.
Not every white person is inherently guilty of this. It's a matter of portrayal, and it's only an extended 'punishment' for colonialism (not that you're saying this but I've heard it in those terms) insofar as that portrayal is used to perpetuate that stereotype of other non-European cultures. As pitfalls go, it's pretty obvious and easily avoided.
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Once again Sam Jackson looks like the youngest person in that photo.
edited 8th Feb '18 9:41:49 PM by Unsung
I want to make a movie where a Chinese man travels across the world to a far away and distant land, coming to study at a secret ranch hidden high in the mystical mountains of Montana. There, he must learn the ancient art of rodeo through a montage taking place over a couple weeks, just in time to ride against a dark and sinister force that can only be stopped by the one true prophesied master of the cowboy ways.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I don't see that nuance being often expressed in Internet though. Like, not all countries had part in colonialism and even then, its bizarre to me to identify all diverse European countries as being part of same identity. Heck, most people I know have hard time with identifying with Americans <_<
Either way though, I do wonder if you actually have to be "white" for it to count as Mighty Whitey since the trope article itself points out that anime/manga do the same thing with all offensiveness included just with main character being Japanese. Page even mentions its more convenient to define it as "modern" person being portrayed as superior to "ancient" people.
That does sound awesome
Though, I suppose someone could interpret it as western ways being shown as superior, so someone could be offended. Like, isn't main reason why "Western person becomes master of Eastern art" offensive because of historical things Europe and America has done? I would assume most people would realize it to be parody of the trope though
edited 8th Feb '18 9:46:18 PM by SpookyMask
Hmm yeah.
Oh, one more thing I was wondering about: Would Danny Rand having been Asian really make it much better? I mean, it would still have been about American man mastering eastern arts in couple of weeks <_< Unless you meant that character wouldn't have been American originally even if show takes place in New York, in which case yeah it wouldn't carry the implications I think.
(note: Sorry if I say really inaccurate things since I haven't seen the show)
edited 8th Feb '18 9:53:37 PM by SpookyMask

Ignoring the fact that you used the classic alt right defense of the "Just Joking" Justification
Like I'm not stupid. English is my first language so I've heard all the double speak before. Honestly, you're spouting alt right talking points. And if you're not of the alt right, you're doing a poor job arguing your points