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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79851: Feb 4th 2018 at 6:17:34 AM

[up] Once the MCU is finished (if that ever happens) it would be fun to have a bunch of comic books covering stuff which was skipped, and maybe add additional stories.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79852: Feb 4th 2018 at 6:28:07 AM

I'm pretty certain the MCU will pull a Smallville or Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and once it's abandoned on screen (For what ever reason) it'll continue in comics, and we'll get the cross over I've been craving.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#79853: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:33:08 AM

I so much want to see Peter Quill and/or Rocket snicker about Richard Rider's name.

Also, I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see Gwendoline Christie as Lady Thor with Natalie Portman either back full time or sort of being written-out.

I don't really want Steve to be killed off, but I can definitely see a future movie where both Bucky and Sam are operating as Cap and also dealing with a composite of Walker and Burnside.

edited 4th Feb '18 9:35:30 AM by Hodor2

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#79854: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:37:22 AM

I kind of love the idea that Thor and the other Asgardians are as much archetypal spirits as they are physical beings and thus not really bound to any one body, and that Thor could just as easily empower another avatar while still remaining essentially him- (or her-) self.

edited 4th Feb '18 9:42:59 AM by Unsung

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#79855: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:37:31 AM

maybe Steve will become Nomad and Bucky Cap.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#79856: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:38:26 AM

Maybe Steve will become the director of SHIELD. Eyepatches for everybody!

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#79857: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:41:41 AM

@Unsung-

Interesting. I've definitely mused about that idea because of the ambiguity of whether Thor and Loki are the Thor and Loki, and it certainly works because Ragnarok in Norse Mythology is definitely treated as somewhat cyclical.

Also, I'm not sure whether I'd want him as a pure villain or not, but I'd be kind of interested in Eric O'Grady in the Ant-Man movies, because he does make a good Evil Counterpart to the movie's version of Scott. Although as I mentioned in another post, I'd really like to see Raz as Giant-Man played by Kumail Najiani.

edited 4th Feb '18 9:41:54 AM by Hodor2

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79858: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:42:26 AM

Well, in the near future, on the top of my list is a Savage Land and a Silver Surfer origin movie...and I think that there are good chances for both once the Fox deal goes through. I mean, a property with dinosaurs? No way they pass off an opportunity to show universal how it is done. And the Silver Surfer is along with the Fantastic Four, Namor, She-Hulk and the X-men in general the last character Marvel has left which can head a movie franchise by name alone. Everyone else will be a way harder sell.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#79859: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:54:30 AM

I'd love to see them do something with the Irredeemable Ant-Man. Maybe a case where he's not a straight-up villain, but still a criminal and rival, right up until they have to join forces to save the day. Put a decoy villain in there who gets defeated by end of the second act, but leaves a giant mess for the heroes to clean up. I do like that formula, where it's not just about fighting the villain, but about saving people. Homecoming and Spider-Man 2 did that well.

[up]Get Sauron in there and I think you might have something.

edited 4th Feb '18 10:12:48 AM by Unsung

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79860: Feb 4th 2018 at 9:56:16 AM

Who would you have be the protagonist of a savage land film?

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#79863: Feb 4th 2018 at 10:08:03 AM

I kind of love the idea that Thor and the other Asgardians are as much archetypal spirits as they are physical beings and thus not really bound to any one body, and that Thor could just as easily empower another avatar while still remaining essentially him- (or her-) self.

That made me imagine someone being a cleric of Thor, a la dnd.

Thor busy in Asgardia or whatever but empowering someone to fight in his name.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#79864: Feb 4th 2018 at 10:26:23 AM

Mr Fantastic can make a Thor. Why shouldn't Thor make a few Thors of his own?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79865: Feb 4th 2018 at 10:46:44 AM

Well Ka-Zar and/or Shanna, who else. I have naturally a preference for Shanna being the lead, but I guess those two and Zabu kind of belong together. Shanna would need a more practical outfit, though. Honestly, I get the concept of being comfortable, but there is nothing comfortable about running around and fighting in a freaking bikini.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#79866: Feb 4th 2018 at 11:00:21 AM

Edited post.

edited 4th Feb '18 11:01:12 AM by windleopard

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#79867: Feb 4th 2018 at 11:04:50 AM

Started typing before the edit, but regarding Blade, I recollected (and confirmed my memory) that Blade is British-born in the comics, and so I was thinking of Idris Elba for him (yeah, I know, obvious choice- there's other good black, British actors) and especially if as a tv series, having an element of the character being alive and having adventures at different periods of history. And needless to say exploring Afro-British and African American history and "code-switching".

So think Timeless meets Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

edited 4th Feb '18 11:11:25 AM by Hodor2

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#79868: Feb 4th 2018 at 12:38:29 PM

[up] I'm not sure if Blade’s past has changed since Guggenheim’s series or if his past has always been the same but in his last series he's raised in London but his parents came from Latveria.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#79869: Feb 4th 2018 at 1:12:32 PM

I thought that according to Doctor Doom (in whatever comic that "Where's my money, honey?" line comes from) there are no black people in Latveria.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79870: Feb 4th 2018 at 1:39:45 PM

To be honest, I kind of dislike Latveria. It is pretty much the American idea of how a small European country looks like. It never had much to do with reality. I remember watching this old Fantastic 4 cartoon and keep wondering why the Fantastic 4 a constantly travelling to an alternate universe until I finally understood how screwed the perception of Europe is.

If they do Doctor Doom and Latveria, Marvel has its work cut out for them to bring it into the current century. But then, that is true for most of the Fantastic 4 stuff.

Which reminds me...I have seen a lot of ideas floating around how to keep the nuclear family angle. I don't think that this is a good idea. They need to explore the family dynamics we have today, not the one of a past era.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#79871: Feb 4th 2018 at 3:39:55 PM

[up][up]That's been retconned. Recent depictions show Latveria is very tolerant of diversity (a small plot point in Loki's series was an anti-Muslim bigot being mad about Muslim immigrants coming to Latveria).

And I can't wait to see Latveria in the MCU. Especially that dope castle.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#79872: Feb 4th 2018 at 4:04:44 PM

The Infinity War teaser apparently played early in Canada and has been posted to Reddit[1] I haven't seen it but according to one tweet there's a spoiler for the Black Panther movie in it.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#79873: Feb 4th 2018 at 4:38:34 PM

[up][up]

Cool. I was partly joking though, as my impression is that Doom has been Equal-Opportunity Evil more often than a Politically Incorrect Villain.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#79874: Feb 4th 2018 at 4:46:06 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7vans3/boom_looking_for_this/

Leaked Superbowl trailer for MCU's Infinity War.

So Tony is using Bleeding Tech?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#79875: Feb 4th 2018 at 4:50:00 PM

[up][up]Doom is probably one of the less bigoted villains. When he conquered the planet, one of the first things he did was end apartheid in South Africa.


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