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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I think it bears remembering that before Deadpool made a fraction of all the money, February was where blockbusters went to die
At the time there was outrage at Marvel for pushing back Black Panther into a box office dead zone for Spider-Man.
People were afraid Marvel was going to let it fail and then shrug 'guess superhero movies without white male main characters don't work oh dern'
Happily it seems that Black Panther will succeed.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI never really understood why the early winter months were considered blockbuster death slots, short of extreme cold making people less likely to turn out in some regions. If a movie interests me I'll turn out. I've never given weight to what time of the year it came out, as long as it wasn't coinciding with another big movie, which is why I'm surprised blockbusters aren't more evenly distributed throughout the year.
The movie business is a superstitious and fearful lot.
They don't like to do something unless its already proven.
Heck, summer used to be seen as a dead zone for movies too before Jaws invented the blockbuster.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThe logic was that anything that's a mainstream popcorn flick was likely already released during the major hot spots of Summer and Christmas, and that anything that's Oscar Bait was already released as well. So, if a studio is putting out something in January, February or March, it's because they thought it wasn't good enough to compete with the other films released during the hot spots.
I mean, it's not great choreography in that clip. Still haven't seen the film, but if someone looked at that clip and said "choreography sucks" I would be inclined to agree with them for that clip.
Look at 33-35 secs in for example. It's quite sluggish.
edited 2nd Feb '18 12:30:45 PM by Sigilbreaker26
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"According to Black Panther costume designer Ruth E. Carter, Ramonda is still South African (specifically Zulu)[1]
which would explain why T'Challa and T'Chaka speak isiXhosa instead of a language they'd likely speak given Wakanda's location.
Sounds like my grandma, being pretty strict about maintaining the bilingualism.
<My son, it is your time.>
“Mom, you’ve been living in Wakanda for thirty years. You can use Swahili like everyone else.”
<I’m not letting you forget the voice of your ancestors! Now set a good example for your kids!>
<Yes mother...>
I don't think it's all *that* slow. It's not artificially sped up and down or hyperkinetically cutting from angle to angle constantly, which gives it a very different feeling from a lot of other action movies. Those longer real-time tracking shots feel more like something pre-Wachowskis, pre-Jackie Chan, and, for better or worse, pre-Michael Bay.
(Not that Jackie Chan movies don't have long tracking shots in real time, but in trying to emulate Jackie Chan without having Jackie Chan on hand, I feel like a lot of movies cut together their scenes in such a way as to try and achieve a similar speed and rhythm while losing something of that dreamlike quality of the omniscient, floating camera.)
edited 2nd Feb '18 1:00:02 PM by Unsung
Students find out that they're going to go see Black Panther [1]
In terms of that particular clip, I think it's some pretty cool/brutal fighting and the wig toss is awesome of course.
However, I would say that at least that particular scene doesn't quite have the choreography of Winter Soldier or Civil War. In those movies Cap and Bucky especially (since it's kind of their "power") but also Spider-Man as well as T'Challa himself have this almost Combat Clairvoyance and all of their moves are almost like a dance.
However, that clip of T'Challa overturning the car did seem to have that quality, so I'm not too worried. And besides, if the casino clip is representative, you're still talking about pretty good fight choreography that's no where near the worst in the MCU (that would probably be Age of Ultron or alternatively Doctor Strange or Ant-Man, since their protagonists aren't skilled fighters).
Overall it does seem like Black Panther's fight choreography is a step below The Winter Soldier and Civil War's (which remain the peak of the franchise). Hopefully the cinematography can make up for iit.
That's cool they kept Ramonda being South African. I wonder if T'Challa and Shuri are full siblings in this continuity or still half-siblings with Ramonda being Shuri's mother. I wonder how the MCU Wakandans would take to their previous monarch taking a foreign consort and adopting her tongue then producing a mixed heir with her, given their comic equivalents' penchant for hardcore xenophobia which likely is going to carry over into the film as well.

I think comic readers put a lot more weight on who created which character than I do. I'd personally put more weight on who wrote that character best than whoever thought them up in the first place.