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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79651: Feb 1st 2018 at 8:46:18 AM

[up][up][up] [up]Argh!!!! Could you please warn the next time that it is a toy spoiler? I thought it was an official promo picture.

I try to look at only those and the first two or three trailors.

edited 1st Feb '18 8:46:34 AM by Swanpride

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#79652: Feb 1st 2018 at 8:49:38 AM

The new shield was also in the Infinity War trailer.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#79653: Feb 1st 2018 at 8:50:10 AM

[up][up][up]eh Thanos Steve just wants to get laid. He's still not a freaking Nazi.

edited 1st Feb '18 8:50:26 AM by windleopard

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#79654: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:19:07 AM

Cap's going to have a hard time frisbee-tossing that.

I also know that the toys are meant to let you build another figure piece by piece, but my first thought on seeing it is, "Captain America comes with a new shield and Thanos's severed head?! JESUS. Being on the run made him Marvel's ultimate badass!"

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#79655: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:21:26 AM

When you collected all the Infinity Stones but lost your head.

Should’ve kept the helmet, it would’ve prevented this.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79656: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:33:14 AM

I agree with the sentiment against [malehero]-girl. But even Batgirl and Supergirl have managed to become interesting worthwhile characters. It does take time though.

Also I really do agree Carol's spotlight has kind of came at the expense of Monica. Monica's had some cool stuff recently but I just know that Monica, a solo film worthy character, is going to end up just being a supporting character in Carol's films.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79657: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:38:33 AM

I hope that they both will eventually get to shine.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79658: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:39:54 AM

Absolutely.

Heck if Black Widow can get a spin off, so can any supporting character.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#79659: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:41:02 AM

Speaking of, any further word on her getting a movie?

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79660: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:41:37 AM

2020 release, other than that. Nope.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#79661: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:42:00 AM

Monica has been expensed for a long time

They threw her under the bus twice for Peter David's Genis Vell

Carol wasn't taking anything from Monica by becoming Captain Marvel that hadn't been lost to her for years by this point

And Carol had had a new run of somewhat prominence around the Civil War era before she took the title

In terms of squatting the name to spite Shazam she was the obvious choice

Monica absolutely deserves more attention and I only hope she keeps getting prominence as she was in Mighty Avengers and Ultimates But Less Millar-y

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79662: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:47:54 AM

We will see....she is certainly one of the more enticing option of what is left of the Marvel line-up outside of the X-men and the Fantastic 4 properties.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79663: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:49:39 AM

I quite like her personality too? I've only read so much of her, but I like that she doesn't suffer fools. Though in Ultimates America kind of outshone her in that regard.

Spectrum is a pretty cool super name for her though. I hope she keeps this one.

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#79664: Feb 1st 2018 at 9:55:20 AM

She just needs to shoot first if Genis shows up

Fuck that guy

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#79665: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:00:34 AM

On the "more famous than the guy in the role" I'm going to have to go with "if you only count Marvel's Captain Marvel" since even with the name change Billy Batson is definitely going to be the first person most people are going to think of.

edited 1st Feb '18 10:00:45 AM by Sigilbreaker26

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79666: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:02:55 AM

[up] Who?

And keep in mind, I am representing the slightly more informed general audience.....

Edit: Oh, do you mean Shazam?

edited 1st Feb '18 10:03:21 AM by Swanpride

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#79667: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:03:00 AM

Absolutely not a character I'd expect. Really obscure villain from Tony Stark's rogue gallery? Woah.

While not especially prominent in the comics, Ghost seems to show up fairly often in adaptations - likely because of the character's cool design and distinctive powerset. IIRC, back before the Iron Man trilogy ended, Ghost got decent buzz as a requested villain there.

It also helps that he - or she here - is a good Foil for Scott personality-wise, and that it gives the movie an "odd powers vs odder powers" vibe that's really cool, especially after the first movie went for the bog-standard Mirror Match.

edited 1st Feb '18 10:05:13 AM by KnownUnknown

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#79668: Feb 1st 2018 at 10:06:43 AM

Billy Batson might be more known to a moderately invested comic reader but his current mass media footprint would be like two episodes of Justice League and a few of the straight to DVD animated movies. Some of which changed him to Captain Thunder I think

Carol has appearances in two Avengers cartoons and an upcoming movie so the average audience member might be more familiar with her by this point

And Marvel has been fairly consistently pushing her so odds are if you've seen a Captain Marvel comic cover recently it's going to be Carol

edited 1st Feb '18 10:08:00 AM by Bocaj

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#79670: Feb 1st 2018 at 11:10:18 AM

[up]Only T'Challa, master of all four cliques, could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished.

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#79671: Feb 1st 2018 at 11:11:20 AM

Yeah, I agree that Billy's pop culture presence is dismal. So is Carol's. Right now, the average person's opinion of the name Captain Marvel is either going to be "Who?" or "Oh, I think that's a movie coming out."

Which technically counts as a win for Carol but it's still Damned by Faint Praise. That said, once her film hits theaters, then she'll be a household name like the other MCU stars.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#79672: Feb 1st 2018 at 11:12:37 AM

[up]x6 I do mean Shazam, yep. The OC, the guy who inspired Elvis. And I might agree with you that he's kind of obscure if not for his role in YJ as a major(ish) supporting character. And he was in Justice League too, but only for one episode (albiet a spotlight episode).

I'd say he's about a Dr. Fate level well known superhero (that is, second tier DC heroes once you get past the major six or so who are always going to be in a JL lineup).

edited 1st Feb '18 11:18:09 AM by Sigilbreaker26

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79673: Feb 1st 2018 at 11:13:59 AM

[up][up][up][up]

I feel that Clint and Scott should be more prep than goth, and Steve should have some more nerd. The guy sketches.

edited 1st Feb '18 11:14:20 AM by Whowho

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#79674: Feb 1st 2018 at 11:51:55 AM

I think I know Dr. Fate. He was in the Injustice 2 game. Discount Dr. Strange with a bucket on his head who answers to an evil time god or something?

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#79675: Feb 1st 2018 at 12:01:04 PM

In real world terms he preceeds Dr. Strange, but you're more or less on the money. (though I'm pretty sure Nabu isn't evil).

edited 1st Feb '18 12:01:26 PM by Sigilbreaker26

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

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