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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79526: Jan 30th 2018 at 6:32:10 AM

Yeah, but I take them with a grain of salt. It's only early reactions after all, and a lot of those commenting seem to be more excited that a blockbuster featuring a mostly black cast actually exists instead of what is in the movie itself. Not that I am not happy about representation. But I was also happy about Wonder Woman existing and being successful without actually liking the movie all that much myself.

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#79527: Jan 30th 2018 at 6:38:16 AM

[up]AHEM...

Thor Ragnarok got early positive reactions as well and look how they turned out...you know why they say: "Don't deal against Marvel."

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79528: Jan 30th 2018 at 6:41:23 AM

[up] I don't bet against Marvel. I just keep my excitement meter under control. I mean, we are talking about reviews which claim that this is the best Marvel movie so far.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#79529: Jan 30th 2018 at 6:41:39 AM

It's never too early in the morning for that I guess.

Anyway, yay. The rumors about Scott being under house arrest were true. And Ghost looks great.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#79530: Jan 30th 2018 at 6:49:28 AM

Eh. Although you can't (and shouldn't) separate out the cool because of diversity aspect, the early reviews praise aspects of BP's characters, plotting, world-building, etc. So I don't really see a reason to be that skeptical. I will acknowledge though that while I did like Wonder Woman, it wasn't quite as good as what I would have expected based on the level of praise. Then again, neither was Spider-Man: Homecoming, so...

Ant-Man and Wasp trailer looks awesome. Cool to see more of the "weaponized shrinking and enbiggening". Ghost looks great. Might partly just be an example of going for a more mundane/realistic costume, but I like the "Mr. Robot style hacker" feel the hoodie gives. Which is appropriate for Ghost.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79531: Jan 30th 2018 at 6:52:52 AM

[up] I am always sceptical regarding early impressions...hell, even Fant4stic found enough people to claim that it was a good watch. As did Bv S. To me they are mostly neutral at this point...meaning you can read if it is a bad movie to a certain degree (because the praise gets strenuous in this case), but they aren't really an indicator if a movie is an okay watch or freaking awesome.

edited 30th Jan '18 6:54:45 AM by Swanpride

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#79532: Jan 30th 2018 at 7:09:04 AM

Update on my last post. There's a good look at Ghost someone linked to on io9. Also, a Reddit user noted that Ghost's look is very similar to that in Iron Man: Armored Adventures (which I've vaguely heard of but never seen).

So, I'm not as sure about the hoodie.

edited 30th Jan '18 7:10:11 AM by Hodor2

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#79533: Jan 30th 2018 at 7:11:52 AM

I hope she says "Ghost reporting" or "Did somebody call for an exterminator?" at some point

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#79534: Jan 30th 2018 at 8:26:11 AM

Sweet soundtrack!

And awesome effects!

Really looking forward to that one.

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#79535: Jan 30th 2018 at 9:28:15 AM

Okay first off, sick guitar riff theme, I dig it.

Second off, this looks kickass. They're really ramping up the shrinking and growing tech. Kind of fun.

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#79536: Jan 30th 2018 at 9:31:44 AM

In case anyone didn't notice, the sick guitar riff soundtrack of the trailer is a rock cover of the first movie's theme for Ant Man by Christopher Beck.

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#79537: Jan 30th 2018 at 9:56:29 AM

Getting my hopes up... This does feel like they're making good use of the powersets involved, at least. We see a lot of superstrength, superspeed, explosions and energy blasts, but shrinking and growing has been in pretty short supply since Rick Moranis retired from the screen.

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#79538: Jan 30th 2018 at 10:04:39 AM

Looks like Marvel have their bases covered this year. They have the 'important' film (Black Panther), the 'event' film (Infinity War) and the 'lighthearted romp' (Ant Man & The Wasp).

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#79539: Jan 30th 2018 at 10:56:12 AM

Ant-Man and the Wasp looks like it'll be a lot of fun. I'm one of the people who actually really enjoyed the first Ant-Man and thinks it holds up on rewatches, so if the sequel has the same kinds of setpieces even without Wright, then I'll be pleased.

As for Black Panther I'm noticing a lot of praise for Killmonger, which excites me a lot! While watching the fight scenes in the release clips my first thought was they don't look as good as the ones from The Winter Soldier and Civil War, but it's a different kind of movie with different choreography staff so I don't think it'll necessarily be a negative in the grand scheme of things. I'm really glad to hear about the strong worldbuilding though. I always do enjoy that in a work.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#79540: Jan 30th 2018 at 11:03:04 AM

They could have subtitled this trailer "yeah, Wasp is awesome." Also Ghost looks really cool. I'm curious to see if she takes her helmet/costume off in the movie at all. Comic book Ghost is uber-paranoid and keeps his own pretty much all the time, but Marvel might not be able to resist the urge to show Hannah John-Kamen's face in the film.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#79541: Jan 30th 2018 at 12:06:16 PM

[up] Yeah that’s pretty much my notes regarding thr trailer. I mean, like that shot of her dodging that knife by shrinking! Holy shit!

Yeah everything in that trailer got me excited. It retains the crazy aize changing sctick from the first film which was easily the best part of the movie (building briefcase). The action scenes are amazing to look at. They are continuing from Civil War with Scott being under house arrest for basically betraying his country. And I am really hyped for the antagonist since I always wanted to see Ghost on the big screen since the Iron Man trilogy; wonder if she’ll be a shadow archtype for Scott since chances are she is hired by the Bigger Bad to steal Pym’s shit with her goon squad?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#79542: Jan 30th 2018 at 12:09:59 PM

Is it weird that I am especially hyped about the big logo? And the texture on the "Wasp" part of it? It's like the logo is saying "yeah, she is awesome!!!"

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#79543: Jan 30th 2018 at 12:17:43 PM

[up]The trailer (and the last movie) seemed to confirm that. I’m also kinda glad she called Scott out on not helping out with that whole airport fight thing.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#79544: Jan 30th 2018 at 12:29:09 PM

The compound eye texture on the text is a cute touch.

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#79545: Jan 30th 2018 at 12:54:13 PM

The comparatively-giant tardigrades and what looks like bacterium at the one minute mark are interesting. I was under the impression that the Pym Particle's "minimum size" without going into infinite-collapse-mode wasn't small enough for that.

Is that some kind of rescue-Janet-from-the-microverse vessel?

Also, HELLO Kitty.

edited 30th Jan '18 12:56:44 PM by Anomalocaris20

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123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#79546: Jan 30th 2018 at 1:17:09 PM

Trailer is pretty awesome.

Little nitpick: how was that guy throwing that many knives at Wasp in the short time? They’re not bullets.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#79547: Jan 30th 2018 at 1:18:02 PM

That's Infinite-Knife-Man, the secondary villain of the film. It's his superpower.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#79548: Jan 30th 2018 at 1:19:11 PM

I'm more amused by how first Darren Cross managed to shoot out a flying ant mid-air and now there's this guy hurling knives at a wasp and narrowly missing.

Are the criminals in these movies like reverse stormtroopers with surgical-precision aiming? Or Are they all cousins to Bullseye?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#79549: Jan 30th 2018 at 1:21:18 PM

In Cross's case he was just firing into a cloud of ants. It's probable he'd hit a few, though a bit coincidental that one of them would specifically be Ant-ony.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#79550: Jan 30th 2018 at 2:04:04 PM

Bullseye would really wipe the floor with Scott and Janet given the chance.

Gosh I'm so glad the MCU is heating up at the moment, I've missed this world over the holiday season.

I wonder if Bill Foster gets to use the Pym powers at all, possibly not considering with both Wasps it means four people all with the same power-set. Really glad to have Bill be relevant to the world again after 11 years of injustice.

I wonder how the film is going to keep Scott useful given Hope is a better fighter and has more powers. I guess he'll use his crook skills a whole lot more and will probably be the only person to Embiggen himself considering how dangerous it is.


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