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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78876: Jan 8th 2018 at 2:29:29 PM

Anyway asshole comic Ultron became a kind of puzzle boss the minute he became adamantium so the fun becomes how will our heroes triumph over this pissbaby robot this time?

And usually they still try to punch the indestructible robot to death to fill page count before throwing Scarlet Witch or a logic puzzle or a surprise wedding at Ultron

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#78877: Jan 8th 2018 at 2:32:57 PM

Now I am starting to rue that I skipped Ultron for now and indeed wrote the article about Ego first.....Oh, well, there will be time to take Ultron apart eventually.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78878: Jan 8th 2018 at 3:46:47 PM

DCAU Brainiac is actually a really good example of how to take a two dimensional antagonist and still have him carry arcs and stories over and over. When you think about it, they don’t really give him more depth (in fact, his last appearance involves a pretty major lampshade hanging on how there isn’t much do him), but what they do is execute him, his plots and the way he affects other characters very well. Giving him a well conceived place in Superman’s history and a little bit of foiling to part of Clark’s character helps too.

IIRC, Earths Mightiest Heroes did something similar with Ultron, though he kind of lost steam after his initial arc.

zsax Since: Mar, 2015
#78879: Jan 8th 2018 at 3:51:28 PM

I still remember one of my favorite moments from the original Secret Wars was the way Galactus trated Ultron like an insect.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#78880: Jan 8th 2018 at 3:56:55 PM

[up][up] Having Brainiac be linked to Krypton was such a good spin on him I was gobsmacked to find out it wasn't like that in the comics.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#78881: Jan 8th 2018 at 4:05:04 PM

Yeah, Brainiac as Kryton's computer was a fantastic decision by the DCAU.

zsax Since: Mar, 2015
#78882: Jan 8th 2018 at 4:05:59 PM

[up][up] Yeah, in the comics Brainiac was originally just a green alien .

edited 8th Jan '18 4:06:37 PM by zsax

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#78883: Jan 8th 2018 at 4:14:14 PM

Braniac Serve more as a force of a general threat, thing always got serious when he show up and that make for any charaterization.

That is were Ultron fail, asíde of Being another evil Tony stark(because that is what se need it, another one), having the twins carry out the best part of his plan and his lack of fighting he come as well....Boring.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#78885: Jan 8th 2018 at 5:21:51 PM

[up][up] Who are these other evil Tony Starks? We've had guys who have duplicated his powerset, but I can't think of another MCU villain who really had the same sort of personality.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78886: Jan 8th 2018 at 5:25:31 PM

[up][up]Nice write up. God I hated Ego. He was the WORST. Excellent writing and acting.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#78887: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:11:04 PM

[up][up] Vulture.

Just Makima.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#78888: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:14:28 PM

edited 8th Jan '18 7:15:25 PM by comicwriter

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#78889: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:32:44 PM

Wow, this film's visual design looks brilliant.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#78890: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:39:56 PM

Ross sounds disbelieving of T'challa having a bulletproof panther suit. But shouldn't he know that after Civil War? He was arrested in Bucharest while wearing it.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#78891: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:51:31 PM

Swan: I think you can take a little bit here and there like the threat level which I think it play agaisnt since the soverain steal the show, I get the why(ego is too powerfull and make the movie to serious) but still.

Now I do agree with you in emocional response, this movie actually make me to care about peter and and Was cheering when he discover his power, putting "the chain" really help to set the move.

Also a sugestión you should out how is defeated because the fall of the villian Also matter a lot.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78892: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:05:02 PM

Vulture is a Stark alike? Whaaaaaaat?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#78893: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:08:16 PM

[up][up][up]He may be feigning ignorance to try and fool Klaw.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78894: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:50:16 PM

I am so freaking hype for this movie.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#78895: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:51:23 PM

So far almost all villians iron man have face are stark like in some way of another: Stane is him as weapon seller and corrupt buissness men, Vanko is even more since he have a genius father he workship unlike tony who hate is and Killian does have a stark like thing, force as hell but it is there.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#78896: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:53:36 PM

[up][up][up][up]Kind of a Shadow Archetype working man to the American aristocracy of the Stanks, although that dynasty started with Howard who grew up on the lower east side. So.

[up][up][up]Any chance this is a flashback?

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#78897: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:18:00 PM

Even though I already saw the trailer months ago, it still got me hyped for the movie!

So much so that I re read Jungle Action and the Christopher Priest run of Black Panther. But never the Reginald Hudlin run of Black Panther. Seriously, why the hell my local Books-A-Million chose to sell TP Bs of that run over the much better Priest run? Than again it doesn’t have a good selection of Marvel books as I couldn’t find a good selection of Marvel TP Bs compare to the ones for DC (which have all the good shit including Vertigo).

. . . Yeah, this talk of comics is better suited in the Marvel Comics discussion. This is all about the movies!

Speaking of this year, I also should really look for those TP Bs of Thanos vs. Avengers since it collects all the early stories related to Thanos. Maybe I should order it through Books-A-Million since I couldn’t find any in store copies.

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#78898: Jan 9th 2018 at 12:26:34 AM

I'm pretty sure we've seen a bit more of that scene in other trailers and yeah, Ross is deliberately feigning ignorance of Black Panther to not confirm Klaue's (pronounced like "Chloe") theories.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#78899: Jan 9th 2018 at 12:29:42 AM

I was confused for a moment until I remembered Everett Ross and Thaddeus Ross are two different people.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#78900: Jan 9th 2018 at 2:04:39 AM

@ Unknowing I am not sure if I follow....the thread level is solely about the power a villain has as well as the question if he feels like a viable threat for the heroes. It's not like Ego is lacking in this regard.


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