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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#78826: Jan 7th 2018 at 9:48:51 AM

[up] Frankly, I hope that they are currently slowly building up to them.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#78827: Jan 7th 2018 at 9:52:09 AM

I see.

And it could make part for the Secret Invasion Saga for Avengers V when it comes to certain combinations, right? I'm saying from an interesting picture I've just saw of a hypothetical Phase 4.

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Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#78828: Jan 7th 2018 at 9:56:52 AM

As for female-led films:

-Black Widow (obviously). -A Valkyrie film and/or that female-led team film that Tessa Thompson pitched to Feige (call it whatever you like). -Some of the female X-Men characters (once that deal goes through). -Angela (bonus points for having an LGBT character in the MCU there). -Etc.

There's a decent start. But yeah, they cannot just make Captain Marvel films and then say that they're done. That'd be a good start, but more is needed afterwards.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#78829: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:07:22 AM

Probably putting the cart before the horse, but I think there's plenty of X-Women who could hold a movie as well, in addition to films like Black Widow, Valkyrie, a Wasp solo, etc.

Not sure how many of these could be made right off the cuff, but for example:

  • Rogue (hopefully guest-starring Captain Marvel?)
  • Storm
  • Jean Grey (either truly solo or with Cyclops as a supporting character, with the rest of the X-Men as either minor players or not present at all; admittedly, Cyclops being in there might be seen as undercutting the intent, but I feel like the relationship is an important part of Jean Grey's character, and even if you don't have him in the first movie he should at least be a deuteragonist in prospective sequels)
  • Jubilee (kind of a cheat, because I really want a Jubilee/Wolverine buddy movie, but I think you can still make the movie clearly about Jubilee and god knows she deserves SOMETHING after Apocalypse)

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#78830: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:10:04 AM

I don't like the idea of the X-Men having solos. I think they work better when they can play off each other. It would be like making a Human Torch or Thing movie.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#78831: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:12:15 AM

-X-23 (themes of growing up, escaping your past, trying to get out of the same cycle of violence that Logan is stuck in, self-loathing issues, etc. Lots of potential there).

-Psylock (some awesome trippy psychic ninja martial arts film).

-Storm (themes of environmentalism, mystical stuff, bonus points for having another POC hero, etc).

-Domino (fun heist film).

-Etc.

Lots of possibilities.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#78832: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:13:38 AM

Could Wasp get her own solo film as well?

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#78833: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:14:54 AM

[up][up] Not sure if having a bunch of spin-offs out of the gate will be a good thing. When the mutants do come in they should be regulated to one film at the start.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#78834: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:15:56 AM

Valkyrie, Jessica Drew, She-Hulk, Ms Marvel, Gwenpool, Monica Rambeau, and let Jessica Jones be the first Netflix character to cross over into the movies. Do it.

And this won't happen, but I'd like a spiritual adaptation of Excalibur that's really more of a solo movie for Kitty Pryde.

edited 7th Jan '18 10:19:36 AM by Unsung

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#78835: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:16:27 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] I used to feel the same way, but I'm rapidly getting sick of X-Team movies after how Fox has shoved most characters to the side in favor of a few of the "most popular". And even though I have little doubt that Marvel would handle it better, keeping them relegated to team movies would still likely trend towards the formula of "oh, now this movie this character and this character are in the spotlight". And that works relatively well for the Avengers, but to be fair a lot of the Avengers are getting solo movies/enough background appearances between films to keep them in the spotlight.

Plus some X-Men just lend themselves to movie ideas that I really want to see. For instance, breaking away from female-led films for a moment: Nightcrawler swashbuckling action-adventure film. Let the money roll in.

[up][up]Oh yeah, no, I don't want spinoffs happening out of the gate. Team movies are fine, but I think some of the more prominent characters should also get solo films, because quite a few of them lend themselves to awesome ideas that don't necessarily warrant slapping the "X-Men" label on it.

edited 7th Jan '18 10:18:09 AM by Khfan429

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#78836: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:18:09 AM

Ah I forgot about Kamala Khan, so props to those who mentioned here. Yeah she's another good one.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#78837: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:18:12 AM

Would She-Hulk have the same rights issues as regular Hulk movies?

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#78839: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:24:05 AM

[up][up] Afraid so. It's seems only NBC can show her.

edited 7th Jan '18 10:24:15 AM by Luigisan98

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#78840: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:26:07 AM

Then she's probably not that likely unfortunately.

They could stick her in another movie though. If they do some kind of female teamup movie I'd like to see Valkyrie, She-Hulk, Gamora, Phyla-Vell, and Moondragon kicking ass.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#78841: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:28:59 AM

That may be goodu. smile

Also, when's Moon Knight?

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#78842: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:29:19 AM

Valkyrie: -kicks open the door- "I REQUIRE LEGAL REPRESENTATION"
Jen Walters: -sighs-

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#78843: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:30:50 AM

[up]Actually, if they did Val's Girls Behind Bars story from Defenders, she would need legal representation.

DO EET.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#78844: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:37:18 AM

Any character can theoretically headline their own solo movie if you put enough work into it. Doesn't mean that's the best use of your resources.

What I'd do with the X-Men is have Storm appear first as a supporting character in, say, an Avengers or Black Panther movie, and in the post-credits scene she's approached by Professor X doing his own version of Nick Fury's Avengers Initiative pitch, leading in to the first MCU X-Men movie.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#78845: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:44:27 AM

For some reason I pictured the all female team-up ending up like a female superpowered take on Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

She-Hulk: "I wouldn't know, your honor. I'm not an executioner. I'm just the best goddamn gamma lawyer in the world."

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#78846: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:47:12 AM

[up]Objection! Phoenix Wright face

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#78847: Jan 7th 2018 at 11:01:11 AM

No matter what they do with the X-men (I still want them in their own world), what they should do is making X-men movies and put the focus on someone else in each movie. Meaning the Rogue or Storm or Jean Grey all can/could lead an X-men movie, but with the rest of the team present. The problem with the Fox X-men movies was always that they keep focussing on Wolverine, Professor X and Magneto - and later on Mystique - with everyone else being constantly shoved aside or outright nerfed on their behalf.

I can actually see The Wasp headlining a movie, even without Ant-man. Oh, and you know what they could also do once they have all the Fox rights? Do a Savage Land movie and make Shanna the main character instead of Ka-Zar. And give her a less skimpy outfit and a less convoluted backstory. Point is, it wouldn't matter who is the actual star in this movie because, well, people would watch it to see all those strange creatures anyway, but you could easily use a female character as protagonist. Maybe make her an actual native of the Savage land which learned about the rest of the Earth from some sort of explorer, instead of going the whole "white baby gets abducted and grows up to become a hero in some wilderness" route.

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#78849: Jan 7th 2018 at 4:07:17 PM

[up][up]You suggested a Silver Surfer trilogy last page, but I have to disagree with how you suggested it go. To me, Silver Surfer is at his most interesting after he's broken free of Galactus and has to deal with his actions and find a purpose in a universe that must absolutely hate him. Hell, have him go back to his home planet, only to realize that it's been centuries since he left and Norrin Radd has gone down in the history books as a hero to some and a villain to others for saving their planet but helping Galactus eat other planets. Silver Surfer should break free of Galactus either in his first movie or in his introduction in a Fantastic 4 movie.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#78850: Jan 7th 2018 at 4:16:08 PM

Eh, I dunno. The MCU has yet to do a whole movie centered around a character who's either entirely CGI or covered in extensive makeup the entire time. Even Guardians of the Galaxy makes sure to devote a lot of its screen time to the team member who has a human face.


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