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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
He could send her to look for Sif and other Asgardians who weren't around when their world blew up. Which, btw, would also be a great opportunity to explore the nine realms a little bit more.
It would be fun to pair her with an earthbound hero in order to have someone who can ask question during their travel. Black Widow doesn't make much sense in this context, neither does the Wasp....mmm...we really need more powered heroines. Perhaps she could take Scarlet Witch with her, just to get her away from earth for a while.....
edited 5th Jan '18 6:05:23 PM by Swanpride
Okay as long as there's some time given to the idea of what Asgard will be now and what Valkyrie will be now too
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIndependently of representational issues, I think if Black Widow were to have a movie featured around her it would make more sense for it to be a team/ensemble movie like the GOTG than a strictly solo movie, for reasons others have given above and because unless it's strictly a spy movie her power set and characterization doesn't make for good solo focus. The ambiguity is a big part of what makes her interesting in the MCU.
Valkyrie on the other hand, as an Asgardian elite warrior with a long and colorful history, has lots of initiative to spin a solo film off of. Likewise as other people are also saying, King Thor can still show up as some kind of Big Good or Mission Control since his main arc is over, but Ragnarok rescued him for enough people that they'd want to see him in more stuff. And Valkyrie's personality is boisterous and comedic enough when she needs to be that she can command the viewer's attention as a solo protagonist as well.
edited 5th Jan '18 6:35:01 PM by AlleyOop
As I pointed out already, a Political Thriller is not the same as a classic Spy movie. Which is why they hired Robert Redford and not Sean Connery as the villain.
Honestly, they should have used the period James Bond was/is on hiatus. But I guess Kingsmen got there first...
edited 5th Jan '18 6:53:54 PM by Swanpride
Given how toxic the Inhuman Royal family has become (not just on t.v but in the comics) I doubt this could happen.
I think the fact they have to borrow a villain from Thor is kind of proof this may not work.
Fun fact: there was a Silver Age Spider-Man comic where Black Widow, after leaving the Avengers, went to New York to learn the secret of Spider-Man's tricks and improve herself. She attacks him out of the blue and they fight for a bit. Spider-Man has the flu at the time, so Black Widow completely kicks his ass until he breaks out of her wire, at which point she abruptly gives up and runs away, apparently just then learning about his super-strength. She decides it was wrong to try and copy Spidey's shtick, and she should use her own abilities to forge her own path forward.
Not really relevant to any conversations, I just like it when other people mention wacky shit from the comics and I've always wanted to join in on that.
Very good point. I'm personally quite interested in the proposed ensemble film involving Gamora, Valkyrie, and Sif (and possibly other female characters) and also think that almost all of those characters could also carry a solo film.
I am a bit unsure with Black Widow though. It might be because I don't find Scarlet Johansen the greatest actress, but it's also that the character is framed as being somewhat unknowable and only putting on a fake personality/personalities. Granted, you could (and should) say the same of James Bond, Batman, and The Man With No Name. But because of this aspect, I see her as different from someone like Bucky who used to have an identity and is hopefully slowly getting it back or like Jessica Drew (if you are using the Hydra backstory) or Gamora who have a similar backstory as Black Widow, but have a defined identity in the present.
Speaking of Jessica Drew, I was pondering the idea of her being played by Jameela Jamil from The Good Place
edited 6th Jan '18 10:09:27 AM by Hodor2
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Less that it couldn’t work and more that I don’t expect it to happen. Marvel Studios seems to put characters on tiers (not unlike the comics) for the reasons I’d mentioned. There seems to be a pretty clear delineation between the solo characters marvel thinks can carry a movie (those with the requisite supporting casts and rogues) and those like Falcon, Vision, Scarlet Witch and War Machine, who are great but work better as part of an ensemble.
I’d actually love to see Valkyrie front something, I just think it’s infinitely more likely it’d be a team movie of some kind rather than a solo spin-off.
It's not. You would really have to look at the surface level to believe that those two characters are in any way similar. Tony's problem was a combination of self-loathing and an unwillingness to accept responsibility for, well, pretty much everything. He starts to take responsibility, but he never quite looses the self-loathing.
Doctor Strange on the other hand is a control freak and perfectionist. He can't stand to be less than the best. And he never quite looses this drive, either, but at the end of the day he accepts that there are things he can't and shouldn't try to control (like time) and the power of self-sacrifice. He could become a famed doctor again, but he gives it up in order to protect the world from the shadow.
Those are two different characters and two different arcs.
I didn't think Doctor Strange was all that strong in its themes, besides the retreaded not-Tony Stark aspects, which it did sufficiently, but which I'm not particularly interested in seeing rehashed again.
"Time" was the closest thing the movie had to any kind of narrative artistry, but it still felt more like a motif, something more surface level, than a proper core theme. Shame because if the script was more competent it would've been a very compelling idea to wrap the story around. More emphasis on things like trying to redo your life over, wasting your time and skills away, whether it's "too late" to do things, topics like that would've made the story feel a lot richer and actually thought-provoking than the generic New Age mumbo jumbo. The scene of the Ancient One's passing and her talk about her lack of future was the only emotionally compelling dialogue and even then they didn't make me care enough about her beforehand for it to have more impact.
edited 6th Jan '18 11:16:26 AM by AlleyOop

I'd watch it.
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