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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The warriors three had the potential to be interesting but none of the movies did much with them
A shame
Forever liveblogging the AvengersCheadle is a really good actor who I kinda think the MCU has been wasting a bit. There's zero chance of it happening but I'd actually be down for a short of some kind focusing solely on War Machine. Give him his proper due and make him lead something for once.
edited 4th Jan '18 9:21:23 PM by AdricDePsycho
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Cheadle came into the role at a time where Marvel was wasting good actors and actresses in general. IM 2 was infamous for wasting Mickey Rourke too. IM 3 didn't do much better.
They're doing a bit better about it nowadays, but Rhodey's character missed that wave and now it's too late.
edited 4th Jan '18 9:34:55 PM by KnownUnknown
I mean I can't even think of what they did in the first Iron Man with him, but I don't know if that's because I keep disassociating Terence Howard from the character. Frankly I'm kind of glad in retrospect that he was recast, to my understanding Howard is an abusive piece of shit.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Howard did, however, give us this genius mathematic: "How can [one times one] equal one? If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told its two, and that cannot be."
edited 4th Jan '18 9:39:44 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I kinda liked what Civil War was doing with Rhodey, in establishing him as a very by-the-book, strongly Lawful military man for the very brief amounts of screentime he got. Iron Man 1 I remember him being a mildly likeable friend to Tony, in a bland but passably entertaining way, but I'm glad they ditched Howard. Then in 2 he was a very dour and joyless foil to Tony, though I blame the writing. And I think Rhodey went back to being a decently entertaining friend to Tony in Iron Man 3, but again hamstrung by his very limited screentime. CW seems like the point where they finally crystallized the characterization foundation for him that future works can build off of. Felt like a more compelling take on the archetype than Iron Man 2's attempt at it, despite the latter giving him much more screentime overall.
On a side note this Nintendo x Avengers Infnity War mashup is pretty fun:
edited 4th Jan '18 9:44:52 PM by AlleyOop
The Russos have a habit of giving a bit more strength to characters who elsewhere in the verse barely have any - Rhodey's still there to react to people in Civil War and doesn't have much of himself, but it's better than what we got anywhere else.
MCU Black Widow lacks personality too and suffers from being one cliche after another, but Civil War and especially Winter Soldier by themselves alone keep me liking her as a character.
That just makes me miss the awesome epic crossover of Super Smash Bros Brawl. I wish we could get something like that again.
edited 4th Jan '18 9:46:59 PM by KnownUnknown
In general it does seem like the Captain America films, including the first one, are particularly successful at achieving very dense characterization through both verbal (to Markus and Mcfeely's credit) and nonverbal (the Russos') means. Spend only a few minutes with someone and you get an idea of what kind of person they are based on what they say and act. Spend multiple scenes with them and at that point they've likely displayed multiple layers of their personality. Contrast that with something like the script of Doctor Strange, where for all the words spewed out of the characters' mouths very little of actual narrative worth is expressed in terms of plot or characterization.
It's that strength, and the fact that the writers and director seem to do a good job of paying attention to what goes on in the previous films and taking input from the other directors, which gives me more hope for Infinity War than anything, considering just how many characters are going to be in it.
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I think it says a lot that the two minutes Doctor Strange was in during Thor: Ragnarok gave a lot more to him than the entirety of his own movie. Of course on of the writers of Doctor Strange was some idiot who blamed all of the whitewashing criticisms on "SJW's" so I think it's fair to say the script was written by an idiot.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?I wondered recently why I liked Doctor Strange more in his Thor cameo than I did in his whole movie. Then I went back, read some comics, and realized: "Oh yeah, because that's his schtick in the comics: being "the cameo guy". The 'call-a-wizard' wizard who just shows up, does some wacky fixing stuff, then vanishes while you struggle to comprehend what you just witnessed and what this means about reality. He's done that for years, and it's always been fun when he pops in just to break all the story rules with magic for a single scene.
edited 4th Jan '18 10:23:58 PM by Tuckerscreator

I think the main reason why Sam works so much better than Rhodey is because Sam has his own backstory and even appearances which don't involve Steve. He is a Vet who lost his wing-man and is now trying to help other Vets before he is Steve's friend. He is also quite a flirt. Rhodey on the other hand is the guy Tony already know at college and who later became liaison to Stark industry, most likely because he was Tony's friend. And then he becomes War Machine because he is Tony's friend. I mean, there is nothing outright wrong with Rhodey, but he just doesn't feel like a character who can stand on his own while Sam does. I would watch a Falcon adventure in a heartbeat....and would be first in line for a Falcon and Bucky Road Trip movie (and I will repeat this again and again in the hope a miracle will happen).
edited 4th Jan '18 5:33:06 PM by Swanpride