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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#78526: Dec 31st 2017 at 8:08:09 PM

Yep.

And then you find him robbing a convenience store, and defeat him in a single hit. It was pretty hilarious.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#78527: Dec 31st 2017 at 8:30:01 PM

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Oh. That sounds great. Which also makes me think that Matt Smith might be a good choice for Mysterio.

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#78528: Dec 31st 2017 at 9:42:55 PM

Now that I think about it, Arcade could be a good villain too, though to some casual fans he might be too much like the Joker. I can see the movie version of Murderworld having demented versions of Disney rides and attractions, like a "Hall of Villains" featuring robotic versions of MCU villains attacking Spidey. Yeah, it sounds kind of cheesy, but IMO we'll need some "breather" films after Infinity War (plus, I kind of dig the whole amusement park of horrors thing, is there a trope for that?).

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#78529: Dec 31st 2017 at 10:15:33 PM

[up] Amusement Park of Doom

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#78530: Dec 31st 2017 at 11:17:52 PM

There was a good Silver Age comic where Mysterio shrank Spider-Man and put him in a miniature Amusement Park of Doom (in reality it was just illusions, with Peter's subconscious filling in the blanks due to the tiny amusement park table model Mysterio had shown him beforehand). They could either combine Arcade and Mysterio into one character or have the two be a double act, like Shocker and Vulture, and just adapt that story as the climax of the film.

edited 31st Dec '17 11:18:47 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#78531: Jan 1st 2018 at 8:40:55 AM

Black Panther character bios with minor spoilers[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#78532: Jan 1st 2018 at 8:59:38 AM

No Klaw. Interesting.

And I guess this confirms the Adaptation Name Change.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#78533: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:00:08 AM

[up][up]Link 6 and 7 are the same...

[up] For Man-Ape you mean?

edited 1st Jan '18 9:00:41 AM by Luigisan98

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#78534: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:03:32 AM

Killmonger was his real name in the comics.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#78535: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:11:55 AM

[up][up] Here's the right link[1]

[up] His real name was N'Jadaka in the comics but legally changed it to Erik Killmonger

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#78536: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:17:30 AM

Right, that. But it was still his legal name rather than a nickname.

These name plates make it feel like they're guest-starring on Seinfeld.

edited 1st Jan '18 9:19:03 AM by Unsung

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#78537: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:37:58 AM

What’s the deal with Vibranium.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#78538: Jan 1st 2018 at 9:52:22 AM

Hulk is gettin' upset!

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#78539: Jan 1st 2018 at 10:33:46 AM

It's too bad that the MCU and Netflix shows are separate, as there could be a really funny scene of Killgrave and Killmonger commiserating over their edgelord chosen last names.

Also, I had a question regarding Homecoming in terms of the chronology of the MCU. So, at the end, Tony is going to unveil Spider-Man as a new Avenger, but I was wondering who the Avengers are at this point. So obviously Tony and Vision and I'd guess Rhodes, assuming he's using the version of his suit that is a prosthesis. But I can't really see a three (or even four, counting Spidey) member team being considered as The Avengers, despite how powerful they are.

So, are we to assume that at least one member of Team Cap has rejoined at this point? Because while Black Panther would hypothetically be interested, my understanding of the chronology is that at this point he'd be focused on trying to rule his country.

Basically, I'm kind of figuring that Homecoming is being deliberately vague here and counting on Black Panther and Infinity War to fill things in.

edited 1st Jan '18 11:05:55 AM by Hodor2

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#78540: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:01:52 AM

Well, official Black Panther is team Tony...and don't forget, it is not like the Avengers were constantly joined at their hips. They often went off to do their own missions.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#78541: Jan 1st 2018 at 11:17:37 AM

I very much doubt Panther is considered an Avenger. In addition from sheltering Bucky and giving Team Cap safe haven (at least temporarily), he was only ever working with Tony when he thought it would help him get revenge.

And there is precedent for an Avengers team with only four people, so that was probably what Tony had in mind. Iron Man, War Machine, Vision and Spider-Man wouldn’t have been a bad roster.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#78542: Jan 1st 2018 at 12:23:44 PM

That makes sense. I think my confusion was whether the three person group of Tony, Rhodes, and Vision was operating as The Avengers in the interim or whether after a hiatus, Tony planned to reintroduce an Avengers team consisting of himself, Rhodes, Vision, and Spider-Man. I guess the latter. But the three member team is pathetic in both a sad and amusing way. Sort of like what happens when a band breaks up.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#78543: Jan 1st 2018 at 1:39:57 PM

It's not like Iron Man, War Machine, and Vision don't make a powerful and formidable team.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78544: Jan 1st 2018 at 3:23:36 PM

It'd make for a fun set-up where they fight a villain good at subverting technology. Besides Ultron, of course.

Like how the Iron Man Armored Adventures made Living Laser's schtick that his powers overload Iron Man's suits.

edited 1st Jan '18 3:32:39 PM by KnownUnknown

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#78545: Jan 1st 2018 at 3:27:18 PM

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No question that they are a formidable team. But they don't really have the diversity in powers that makes for a superhero/Avengers team. Or diversity in membership since besides Tony, the other members are his best friend/sidekick who uses an essentially identical suit and an android Tony created from a preexisting AI.

Like I think they should probably call themselves Tony Stark and the Metal Men or something like that rather than The Avengers.

edited 1st Jan '18 3:28:58 PM by Hodor2

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78546: Jan 1st 2018 at 3:30:43 PM

Just FYI, year end MCU domestic box office

4: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

5: Spider-Man: Homecoming

7: Thor: Ragnarok

Worldwide year end box office

5: Spider-Man: Homecoming

7: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

8: Thor: Ragnarok

Only superhero movie to beat the MCU? Wonder Woman, which came in at #3 domestic and #9 worldwide.

edited 1st Jan '18 3:32:22 PM by wisewillow

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78547: Jan 1st 2018 at 3:32:49 PM

Looking through the Marvel, she might be a good villain for that sort of thing. Not that Marvel has the kind of time to actually do anything with it. Cap's team of Avengers didn't any stories before they split up, so I doubt Tony, Rhodey and Vision would either.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#78548: Jan 1st 2018 at 3:35:58 PM

I'm actually surprised none of the MCU movies are in the top 3. I wonder what IW will wind up being in 2018.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78549: Jan 1st 2018 at 3:43:04 PM

The Last Jedi, Beauty and the Beast, and Wonder Woman were the top three domestically.

Worldwide, top three are Beauty and the Beast, Fate of the Furious, and The Last Jedi.

I think TLJ was guaranteed to get a top three spot; Beauty and the Beast was more of a surprise.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#78550: Jan 1st 2018 at 4:05:12 PM

That's definitely a surprise. I didn't realize it did that well.


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