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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Weirdly enough I saw people shipping Samus and Phasma shortly after TFA.
They probably wouldn't do that now that more background stuff has come out though.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersHela is looks more like Death.
Edit: >_>
edited 28th Dec '17 9:14:57 PM by Mizerous
Just Makima.Ryan Coogler talks about how travelling to Africa helped prepare him for directing Black Panther
https://io9.gizmodo.com/ryan-coogler-wasnt-ready-to-direct-black-panther-until-1821647873
I really appreciate hearing that he did that, and it makes me look forward to the movie even more. Although, given Wakanda's location it would've made more sense to travel throughout Kenya or even Nigeria rather than South Africa. Still it's good to hear him talk about acknowledging the distinction between being African American =/= African, just like how as a Chinese American I'm probably less qualified to talk about mainland-specific issues than someone like my father.
I think that that was them trying to avoid a cliché (a lot of films use Swahili as the de-factor "African language" whether it fits in-context or not), by using a different one. But ironically in this case, them speaking Swahili would have made sense (given where Wakanda is traditionally drawn as being located).
It's probably more of the general perception of the continent of Africa as a block place where everything is kind of mashed together, especially noticeable in Hollywood but it's something that a lot of Americans have - even African Americans.
While you wouldn't expect a French person to go to Spain to find their history unless there were special circumstances, the idea that if you're getting back to your roots any place in Africa will do is relatively common among African Americans. Comes in part from most of us not actually really knowing where our roots are from, but also from the general featureless and unspecified depiction of Africa and its people that's been the standard for so long.
The whole "mashup of concepts and languages from all over the continent" (or even defaulting to Kenya) thing is linked to that too. It's something you just kind of get used to.
edited 29th Dec '17 2:55:26 PM by KnownUnknown
IIRC one of the most consistent aspects of Wakanda's geography was its proximity to Lake Turkana, which would also explain why Egyptian mythology might've factored into its native religion. The movies' placement of it in Uganda and Coates' subsequent usage of the same has a lot of precedent.
It's kind of like going to Denmark to research what cities in Germany might look like. It's probably not as good as actually visiting Berlin, but it is still considerably more helpful than doing your research in, say, Melbourne.
Honestly, even if you go to Berlin, you would have had NO idea whatsoever how houses in Germany look like. You would know how they look like in Berlin, but the architecture in Northern Germany is actually way closer to what you would find in Denmark than the Berlin style - which in itself is a clash of the old Berlin, with its ridiculous high ceilings and rear houses, the Soviet Berlin with its concrete slab building (Plattenbau) and the modern Berlin, with its sleek apartments.
Wakanda is a fictional city. They can combine whatever they want.
edited 30th Dec '17 3:18:39 AM by Swanpride
Wakanda is supposed to be an ancient, even autochthonous kingdom and extremely xenophobic, so while not impossible it's not as likely for them to be a culture of South African migrants, especially not if it occurred recently enough for them to be speaking modern Xhosa.
My personal Fan Wank for it is that Ramonda is already stated in the comics to be from South Africa and T'Chaka comes off as a major reformist in Civil War, so it's possible he bucked trends by taking a "foreign" consort and adopting her language, and that T'Challa and his close circle would be influenced a lot more heavily by South African culture because of his (adoptive?) mother maintaining her heritage and his father's openmindedness, even if general Wakandan national culture may not.

She's a big part of Deadpool's mythos the way Dr Doom is a big part of Squirrel Girl's mythos. Rule of Funny is in play, the joke being that for all that Thanos might try to Kill the Marvel Universe, Death's still more into some goofy Canadian hitman. It doesn't come up very often or for long. Deadpool just really gets around when it comes to crossovers.