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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#78401: Dec 26th 2017 at 9:16:58 PM

So...

I just realized something the Thor movies have been missing.

I gotta say, I rather miss Thor's faux Shakespearean put downs. He's too..modern in the MCU. The thing is, it took me a while to truly notice too.

It still saddens me that we never got a Ultron, we would have words with thee! from him in Age of Ultron (which I still like, so no, you guys can't use this as evidence that the movie is bad. Find your own proof!) because that's such a big thing for Thor.

Yeah. We need Thor to lay down some solid smack talk in Infinity War. Without a doubt.

One Strip! One Strip!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78402: Dec 26th 2017 at 9:23:00 PM

I guess its an issue of accessibility. But I totally support someone going through the Thor scrips and changing all his and other Asgardian dialogue to iambic pentameter.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78403: Dec 26th 2017 at 9:31:20 PM

Whoever does that has to clean up the resulting fangirl tears from having Thor and Loki conversing in iambic pentameter. Well, either tears or drool.

...yes, okay, I’d be one of the fan girls drooling.

edited 26th Dec '17 9:31:51 PM by wisewillow

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#78404: Dec 26th 2017 at 9:41:21 PM

It also doesn't help that, as far as I can tell, his most recent cinematic appearance has turned him into a knuckle-dragging moron from South Beach. Who just happens to have an accent.

My various fanfics.
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#78406: Dec 26th 2017 at 9:56:09 PM

Thor easily has some of his smartest moments in Ragnarok.

This song needs more love.
Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#78407: Dec 26th 2017 at 10:35:03 PM

If anything, they make Loki look like a doofus a lot in that film.

Anyway one thing that I do hope is a result of Ragnarok's success is that Marvel will start having more female main villains in their films moving forward. Because thus far, they've had exactly ONE (which they themselves cop to).

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#78408: Dec 26th 2017 at 10:35:58 PM

Yep. It's been a complete sausage fest so far.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#78409: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:21:06 PM

@Mizerous

Hmm, that is a good question as to who is the equivalent to Steppanwolf.

I would have to say Ronan.

Both villains are good starter villains for the team to fight with their own army of generic alien mooks who are searching for an artifact of doom to lay waste on a planet. But are so criminally underdeveloped that people criticized the film for having a weak villain.

But another villain I would compare him to Kacelleous, but for that villain at least we get to see his master in action unlike Steppanwolf’s.

Also yes to more female Marvel villains. Since Hela kind of also doubles as Enchantress for this film, other Marvel villainess I want to see includes: Crimson Cowl (& her Masters of Evil), Moonstone, Queen Vereneke (now that the rights to FF are back), Mystique (now that the rights to X-Men are back) . . . uh, Madam Masque (though I’m not sure they would do another Iron Man movie) . . . man the Marvel rogue gallery sure is a sausagefest now that I think about it. There really is a small pool of major female villains. Especially compare to DC! I mean I can list a fuckton of major female DC villains (including Wonder Woman villains which is cheating):

  • Cheetah
  • Giganta
  • Circe
  • Doctor Poison
  • Doctor Cypher
  • Morganne Le Fay (who is also a Marvel villainess that isn’t from X Men)
  • Roulette
  • Granny Goodness (& her Female Furries)
  • Catwoman
  • Lady Shiva
  • Poison Ivy
  • Talia al Ghul
  • Madam Rogue
  • Chesire
  • Blackfire
  • Tigress
  • Livewire
  • Silver Banshee
  • Emerald Empress
  • Queen Bee
  • The Queen of Fables
  • Queen of the Royal Flush Gang
  • Lady Blitzkrieg
  • Shazam’s hell bitch of a daughter (I think her name is literally Hellblazer, I kind of forgot)
  • Harlequin . . . all three versions of her from three Earths. No seriously, there are three Earth version of her. There’s the one from Earth 1 who has an obsessive crush on the Joker. One from Earth 2 who was only a villain just to bang Green Lantern. And one from Earth 3 who is the literal daughter of that universe’s Joker (a hero) and ended up on Earth 1 somehow where she antagonizes Robin.

edited 26th Dec '17 11:41:52 PM by BigK1337

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#78410: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:34:18 PM

I like that no one has spelled Kaecilius’s name correctly today.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#78411: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:43:15 PM

[up] Its mostly me. Though to be fair I also didn’t spelled Dormmameu’s name right either. I was kind of banking on people understanding the context of the character I am talking about.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#78412: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:46:13 PM

The proper spelling is "Dormammammammammammammammammammu".

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78413: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:49:48 PM

I thought it was Doormomuuu

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78414: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:51:02 PM

Dormroomroom

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78416: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:53:42 PM

He who possesses the power of the power of the power of the power of the power of the power of the power of the power of the...

edited 26th Dec '17 11:53:57 PM by KnownUnknown

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#78417: Dec 27th 2017 at 12:01:23 AM

Y’know, fuck it. For all future mention of the Lord of the Dark Dimension, the official spelling is: Door-mom-mew.

You can remove the hypens if you want to just call him Doormommew.

edited 27th Dec '17 12:02:08 AM by BigK1337

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78418: Dec 27th 2017 at 12:03:19 AM

If he wields Mjolnir, is he Dormam-mew mew?

edited 27th Dec '17 12:03:47 AM by wisewillow

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#78419: Dec 27th 2017 at 12:04:00 AM

Dorming with Dormammu.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#78420: Dec 27th 2017 at 12:05:02 AM

I usually just spell it THE DREAD DORMAMMU

edited 27th Dec '17 12:05:09 AM by KnownUnknown

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#78421: Dec 27th 2017 at 12:05:34 AM

But wouldn't that get confusing, since Mjolnir is pronounced "mew-mew"?

Getting shit-post [nja] is the worst.

edited 27th Dec '17 12:06:45 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#78422: Dec 27th 2017 at 12:06:54 AM

...that was the joke.

[nja] nevermind you were going for the same joke

edited 27th Dec '17 12:07:32 AM by wisewillow

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#78424: Dec 27th 2017 at 1:00:04 AM

Dormammuu, I've come to barter.

Just Makima.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#78425: Dec 27th 2017 at 1:07:29 AM

Best I can do for that Eye of Agamotto is fifty dollars.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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