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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
If you do use Magneto, I suggest Genosha as the villains
Movie can end with Magneto overthrowing the human government and the X Men divided about how they should feel about it
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI mean, I like that idea, but I can't help feel that it would invite comparisons to certain...divisive issues.
Particularly since Magneto's Jewish.
I mean, it wouldn't be a one-to-one thing, obviously, but still, I can see people saying stuff like that, and I can see it getting ugly.
edited 22nd Dec '17 1:18:25 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!When your track record for creating main villains is dubious, I'd say trying to go for the ensemble cast of villains is not the wisest move.
The Hellfire Club are a bunch of mustache-twirling assholes, there's not much depth to be found in them, unless you plan on making Emma Frost a mainstay of your universe and you use them to introduce her - but if your plan is to have Emma make a Heel–Face Turn down the line you are limited in what she is allowed to do or go with.
She murdered a horse to gaslight a young woman into becoming an assassin in the comics and still did a heel face turn
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I'd say they're worth keeping around for a movie or two, at least if you want to do a proper Dark Pheonix Saga movie. Other than that, what else can you do with them?
Most people don't know about the horse. Hell, I completely forgot about the horse until you brought it up. When people bring up reasons for why Emma shouldn't have been redeemed, I don't think that's the first thing to come to mind.
edited 22nd Dec '17 5:17:40 PM by kkhohoho
I don't mean that Emma Frost is consistently written in the comics, but the MCU doesn't have the latitude for retcons or forgiveness comic books have due to their format.
Besides, the Dark Phoenix movie of next year hasn't been cancelled yet, so Marvel is unlikely to immediately pick it up afterwards.
Especially as the Dark Phoenix is an opponent you can reasonably pit the Avengers again, so if they were to use it, I think it would not be in a movie with mutants only. There aren't many cosmic-level threats available, especially threats who don't look a lot like a Thanos rerun (Galactus and the other evil overlords of his ilk).
I've been thinking about something. Regarding Cap 2, a lot of people seemed to think that HYDRA secretly running SHIELD was a cop-out; that it would've been better if it really 'had been SHIELD's actions and justifications becoming more and more questionable, and Steve having to make a choice. With that thought in mind, the Sokovia Accords. At some point over the course of these next two movies (Infinity War and the next one) the Accords have to be addressed and dealt with. What do think the chances are that when we really get into the Accords in detail, it'll be at least suggested that HYDRA had something to do with the drafting/implementation? Just, the Accords almost seemed tailor made to hinder the Avengers, and I don't believe for a second that HYDRA is really gone. More likely the remnants just dug even deeper into hiding and went back to what they were doing before the great D.C. clusterfuck of 2014.
edited 22nd Dec '17 5:39:25 PM by MedusaStone
One thing about introducing mutants is if they don't want to make Magneto the father of Wanda, they could take totally make him a minority of some other genocide that occurred.
Like maybe the Guatemalan genocide.
But if Captain America survives IW, it might be nice if Magneto's camp at Holocaust was actually saved by Captain America. Would be a nice moment between the two.
edited 22nd Dec '17 10:11:18 PM by MadSkillz
I think that, if you change what genocide Magneto was victimized by, you have to be very careful not to make him a race which is currently doing a major civil rights push in the U.S., otherwise he could easily be interpreted as a harsh criticism of that movement (especially if Professor X, the one always lecturing him on the right way to fight against discrimination, is still a white guy).
I think a good villain to use in an X-Men reboot movie would be Mastermind. He's a classic X-Men foe but hasn't been used in a movie yet, and his telepathy based powers could let him be a good counter to/evil opposite of Professor X. You'd need to give him some minions whose abilities are more inclined towards physical combat, but while the comics have mostly used him as a second banana in someone else's supervillain organization, it makes sense that a guy called Mastermind would have people working for him.
Funny that you mentioned Mastermind, in my plans for a revisioned X-Men series he is essentially The Man Behind the Man for Magneto in that he manipulated the leader of the Brotherhood through words and his mutant powers to wage war on the humans just to further the Hellfire Club’s agenda. I always found it weird that the guy who goes by the name Mastermind is playing the role of the Dragon in the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, so why not make him a Dragon with Agendas?
Speakingnof X-Men villains yet to be used, another villain who I REALLY want to see done on screen is Mister Sinister. I am not sure if the Dark Phoenix film will actually use him after that post credit scene hinted at him, but if the MCU does do a reboot X-Men movie I want him as the first villain they deal with. I mean why not? Instead of having a mutant villain that wants to kill all humans, or a human villain that wants to kill all mutants; we have a human villain obsessed with evolution, sees mutants as the next step to said evolution, experiment on them to create the perfect being and use said knowledge to force this evolution on humans & mutants alike even if it kills them. I think a threat on both species will help establish the X-Men as protectors of all kind, and Mister Sinister is definitely a threat towards both races. Though, if they do Mister Sinister lets hope the movie doesn’t end up as a rehash of the first X-Men movie since Magneto’s plan in that also involved forced evolution.
Also Mojo; he should totally appear in Guardians of the Galaxy since he fit right in with the cast of characters.
Oh... It just ocurred to me, Marvel can use Cyclops Space Pirate dad in a Guardians Of The Galaxy movie, and use the stringer to introduce him and the X-Men. Do you think they should use him? I always found contrived and ridiculous that his father survived and went to have space adventures.
This is true. The fundamental reality of allegory and applicability is that even if you didn't mean to comment on a thing, your story will still be seen as a commentary on that thing. Everything's political in some way or another, and if you aren't careful to define those themes, the story will define them for you. Often in ways you didn't want.
For instance, if you make Magneto black, then his story becomes a commentary on Black Lives Matter, reinforcing the belief that BLM activists are dangerous terrorists trying to undermine our country. You might not have meant that, but because that's the political environment the story is entering into, that's what it becomes about.
God help you if you make Magneto Muslim.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Its a hypothetical to illustrate why it would be difficult to update Magneto by changing his background to another genocide.
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Personally, I want them to do the Fantastic 4 and Dr. Doom justice before even touching the X-Men.