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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77876: Dec 13th 2017 at 5:20:57 PM

[up] You never know. But the timing couldn't be better.

Speaking of timing, I doubt that this will change anything about the current line-up. Marvel will want to wait until every legal hurdle has been taken before they start to film anything, and Disney will certainly not just throw out next years schedule. Though the Gambit movie should be dead now.

My guess is that they won't do anything with the X-men rights just yet, but will start to work on a Silver Surfer origin movie for phase 4. And no, I am not just saying this because I really want this movie. I say this because this is the perfect property to dip your toe in. It's set light-years away from the earth, so no impact to or from Avengers 4, it won't need any of the actors currently busy filming Avengers 4, it wouldn't reveal anything about Avengers 4 and should it fail, well, it won't matter.

With the x-men I guess they will wait how next year goes before they make a decision.

Btw...what if they create an X-men verse for their streaming service? I mean, most of the x-men powers are not that hard to put on screen, right?

edited 13th Dec '17 5:27:46 PM by Swanpride

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#77878: Dec 14th 2017 at 4:39:00 AM

Yes they are. From "eye beams" to weather effects, the X-men cartoon was easy to make. Now FOX tried a live action New Mutants/X-force series in The '90s and the pilot flopped. So much money was spent on SFX of the era that the actors were D and C list nobodies except for the actress who played Emma Frost and even I can remember who that was.

Marvel/Disney will wait until the merger is complete and then start with a reboot. As even Movie Bob pointed out "I am Professor Charles Xavier and welcome to my school" was Harry Potter-esque note  decades before J.K. Rowling even put pen to paper.

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
Cross (Don’t ask)
#77879: Dec 14th 2017 at 4:55:41 AM

What about Mutant X or was that unrelated?

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
rollin' on dubs
#77880: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:01:26 AM

The TV series was unrelated, so much so that FOX sued Marvel for undercutting it's X-men franchise.

I tried to walk like an Egyptian and now I need to see a Cairo practor....
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#77881: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:18:59 AM

[up]Kind of ironic in hindsight, ain't it?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77882: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:25:05 AM

I think Inhumans demonstrated that some of these properties are too big to try and do on a TV budget. Both The Gifted and Legion are very good (they're two of the best comic book shows on TV right now) but neither template would make for a satisfying X-Men TV show, and they both have some very obvious budget constraints.

edited 14th Dec '17 5:26:02 AM by comicwriter

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#77883: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:27:51 AM

I think what comicwriter meant to say was...

IT'S OFFICIAL!!!

TL;DR:

  • Everything everyone was saying Disney will acquire from Fox is indeed acquired by Disney.
  • The PR explicitly mentions the X-Men and Deadpool.
  • Weirdly enough, it also mentions the Fantastic Four...maybe the whole thing with Constantin Film will be a cinch?

Again, don't expect to see the X-Men or the Silver Surfer in Infinity War or Avengers 4. But at the same time, don't be surprised if Phase 4 (or whatever they're calling it) will feature our favorite mutants or our favorite First Family.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#77884: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:36:40 AM

On the one hand yay they got the rights back. On the other hand Disney has too much power. Seriously they singlehandedly control way too many series.

edited 14th Dec '17 5:37:01 AM by Kostya

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#77885: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:38:34 AM

These are your wishes. And we're taking them back.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#77886: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:45:39 AM

A Fantastic four TV series sounds like an idea,how about it?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77887: Dec 14th 2017 at 5:56:45 AM

I think what comicwriter meant to say was.

Don't put words in my mouth.

[up]You run into the same potential budget problems as the Inhumans. Nobody's been able to make the Thing look good on a massive movie budget and I imagine that'd be even harder on TV.

edited 14th Dec '17 5:57:12 AM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77888: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:00:22 AM

Still think that they could do the opposite of what the MCU did so far. They could start with the school (and frankly, I don't care how Harry Potteresque it is, there is always room for another magic school), and then do the big action movies featuring the most powerful X-men, like Rogue, Storm aso. All they have to do is to cast adult actors who can carry a movie and are ready to sign a contract along the line to compliment the teen actors who play the students.

Oh, well, whatever they do, they should sort it out.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#77889: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:03:00 AM

I'm still laughing about how Medusa's hair looked like a wig

edited 14th Dec '17 6:11:35 AM by Ultimatum

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77890: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:10:52 AM

So, I opened a separate discussions for those who care about more than the impact on the Marvel properties. Otherwise we might go too off-topic here.

Also, the F4 are made for the big screen. The problem was always that the people making those movies thought that the F4 are a group of Superheroes when they are actually a family of explorers.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#77891: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:18:03 AM

More X-Academy stuff is always welcome.

And is a orange rock-man suit really so hard to pull off? It'll probably look more like foam rubber than living rock, but I can think of worse problems for a show to have. Like blowing their whole budget on CG that still looks terrible. At least with a suit you can learn how to light it, touch it up as the show goes on. With CG, you're basically starting from scratch every time the camera angle changes.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#77892: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:29:18 AM

On the Fantastic Four thing, from the sounds of it Disney is buying 21st Century Fox the corporation (excepting a few properties that will be spun off as their own corporate entity). So Constantine's existing deal with 21st Century Fox will likely continue as is for the time being. It's just that now 21st Century Fox is owned by Disney, which means Disney can use the Fantastic Four characters.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#77893: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:43:07 AM

Universal studios is next.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77895: Dec 14th 2017 at 6:57:42 AM

They wont be able to afford another acquisition anytime soon. First they will have to sort out this one...which comes, as I have pointed out elsewhere, with a bunch of potential problems. But that would be too off topic to lay out here.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#77896: Dec 14th 2017 at 7:04:33 AM

M-I-C, K-E-Y, F-H-T-A-G-N...!

edited 14th Dec '17 7:05:38 AM by Unsung

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77897: Dec 14th 2017 at 8:02:19 AM

Disney is now open to the possibility of R-rated Marvel films. Bob Iger specifically says he wants to keep making Deadpool sequels.

edited 14th Dec '17 8:02:58 AM by comicwriter

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#77898: Dec 14th 2017 at 8:08:52 AM

Okay, good. That was one of the few concerns I had.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77899: Dec 14th 2017 at 8:13:30 AM

Told you so. All a question of branding.


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