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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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The picture of Mickey Mouse as Thanos is nothing short of horrifying.
I'd be down for a Captain America/Human Torch buddy film, especially if Evans plays both parts.
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Yeah, they basically have the first-run broadcast rights to Gotham. Warner Bros handles the home video release and has the ultimate rights to the show. Warner Bros seems to be perfectly happy to put the TV they produce on competitor's networks. NBC had Constantine for a season, CBS had Supergirl for a season, and Fox also has Lucifer.
Actually, it looks like Fox is the only non-CW channel where DC comics based shows have a hope of lasting more than one season. Maybe it's because they don't seem to be going all in on "Original Content" and are perfectly happy to do the standard approach instead of making as much of their own programming "in house" as it were as possible.
If the deal does go through, depending on what actually happens to the entertainment part of the Fox network, the Gotham and Lucifer situation could get really weird.
EDIT: Nevermind, the broadcast network would explicitly not be part of the deal, but the paid cable channels might be, so yeah.
edited 6th Dec '17 10:18:39 AM by Zendervai
- Then Logan, you and Cap could have a war movie to shoot!
- And Spider-Man, you could be the Avengers' new recruit!
- But if they write a teen vampire into your reboot
- Stay the HELL away from me and my continuity.
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The networks won't, but the rights and the producing company behind said networks apparently will. At least a huge chunk of them.
Exactly my sentiment. I really don't want any of the Fox stuff muddled under my clean MCU BUT if they put the F4 into the MCU, they should do an advertising clip in which Chris Evans as Cap greets himself as Human Torch but says "something isn't right here" and Human Torch changes in whoever they cast for the reboot.
edited 6th Dec '17 11:02:30 AM by Swanpride
Only tangible related, but apparently Disney wants to extend Bob Iger's contract past 2019. Which is good news. He might be the best CEO Disney had since Frank Wells. He seems to be very aware of the need to protect the brand and to allow talent some room to thrive. Hopefully he will sign on (especially since it might encourage Feige to extent his contract, too...not that I think that he needs much encouragement).
Did a look around to see what ideas there were for how mutants could exist in The MCU. Some of which I hadn't encountered before.
Mutants start popping up for the first time (bogus)
Mutants cross over from another time line (I like it!)
Mutants and Inhumans are complied into the same thing in The MCU (I don't hate it)
Hydra actually used the scepter to unlock lots of mutants after the Avengers, not just the Maximoffs (Ingenius! But limits a scope a lot)
Mutants have existed for a long time, but Xavier wiped the world's memory of them, and the X-men currently exist to keep the mutant population safe and hidden (this is my favourite)
Some reality warping event means there was always mutants (this is the worst I hate it)
I like the idea of putting all of the Fox stuff in a separate part of the Multiverse.
edited 6th Dec '17 6:56:59 PM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.Has any comic explored the idea that the Marvel Universe public hates superpowered people (mutant and otherwise) in general, but makes an exception for superheroes, the same way many racist people are still fans of black entertainers and athletes?
Mutants would thus be the main recipients of the prejudice, since they're the only superpowered folk we see where a substantial percentage of them aren't putting on costumes and fighting crime. And the X-Men wouldn't get the warmer reception that most superheroes get because their explicitly activist nature gets the bigots riled up.
Raven Wilder: That is an amazing idea, and if it hasn't been done, shame on the comic writers for missing an opportunity.
Mutants flat-out don't fit with the rest of the Marvel universe. Not just because of the disconnect between how the public regards them and how it regards other powers, but because any stories about the oppression mutants face aren't compatible with the existence of other superheroes.
If Captain America lives in a world where America is persecuting and exterminating mutants, and he does nothing (or worse, works with the American government in any way), then he's not the heroic figure he's supposed to be: he's pretty close to being Hydra Cap. And to some degree that goes for all non-mutant supers. You can't have Spider-Man going about his daily life, fighting crime, while living in a place that's verging on Nazi Germany levels of evil.
It. Doesn't. Work. The only reason it lasts in comic is because comics and most of their readers don't care about consistency. Put it in a movie and the disconnect will be blindingly obvious.
It's one reason why I don't want Marvel getting the X-Men. Sure, let Marvel have Doctor Doom and the Skrulls and whatnot, but the X-Men deserve to have their own stories and issues. And they deserve not be dumped into the MCU's cookie-cutter mold.
There are additional reasons why a parallel universe is a good idea:
1. If Marvel brands it properly, it could be very different from the MCU...different enough to allow r-rated movies without confusing the audience. Or at least do movies which aren't necessarily focussed on the Superhero aspect but can be completely different. The could but the MCU for your thoughtful summer blockbuster and Marvel-X for smaller dramas which don't necessarily have to follow audience expectations.
2. The characters could still cross over in a giant event movie. There could even a character moving from one universe into another. IE how would a Mutant feel in this world in which people with powers are mostly accepted and honoured if they fight for the good? That would be an angle I would love to explore with Storm.
3. As much as I love the MCU, there might be a point at which Marvel wants to reboot it...around 20 to 30 years down the line. And wouldn't it be great if at this point the notion of different universes are already established? They can just scramble stuff around and then offer a new version of The Avengers. Perhaps one in which Janet never got lost and therefore founded the first Avenger team years earlier.....
I don't know why everyone is so willing to leave the X-Men in their own world. Sure I don't want them to rush the mutants in, but in the comics the X-Men were known for being involved with mainline comics until the MCU got off the ground. I don't see why people would have issues with mutants considering how many heroes get so much love by normal citizens.
Just Makima.It's mostly just a matter of how you integrate them without it feeling contrived while still preserving the central conflict, ie. that they're a big enough minority that people encountering them enough to hate them makes a kind of sense. I wouldn't really want to lose all the alternate history stuff the X-movies have done either. DOFP was fun and all, but I don't want to spend another four movies just to get the X-Men back to their status quo.
